Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/12/02
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Geoff, $10,000 * 200, is, hey, 2 million dollars!! Why wouldn't that NOT help in the bottom lines? On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com>wrote: > The (now delayed longer) new APO Summicron-M ASPH will be very limited hand > production according to the Solms folks. > It is not a replacement for the current Summicron-M at all. That one > continues in the range as does the Summilux-M 50 ASPH > Actually the design predates the Summilux. They never produced any before > BECAUSE it is so expensive and difficult. > > It will cost about what the Newest Noctilux or the Summilux wides do which > is to say it will be horrendously expensive. They are "statement" lenses if > you like or reference lenses. If someone had the means and desire to have > such a technical masterpiece then good luck to them. This is not an ostrich > skin gold plated something. This one actually has I think the best (quoted) > MTF characteristics that I have ever seen. Distilled essence of Peter Karbe > if you like ;-) > > I bet they sell all that they can make to people that WANT one and can find > the money. I only half fit that group myself ;-) > > None of these lenses have eliminated other lenses from their offerings. The > alternatives are still available. What you have did not suddenly lose > quality or value with the addition of new options. Just don't buy one. No > you or I don't need it nor does a Magnum photographer need it. Of course > you can take great photos with it or without it. > > However this chestnut about them keeping the company afloat is just > chatter. They would be lucky to be able to produce a few hundred a year, if > that. In this case they would be going broke since it looks like being up > to 12 months since the first announcement before there are any for sale at > all. > > I never understand these emotive reactions to when a new more expensive > product is announced. Leica stuff costs a LOT. We all have our own reasons > and priorities to use it/own it (or not!). > > > > > Cheers, > Geoff > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman > > > > On 3 December 2012 10:22, Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com> > wrote: > > > Mark is going to chew your arse off :-) > > > > This is exactly what I am talking about. I had a "last model" Summicron > and > > it only get replaced because I got a 50/1.4 ASPH which is better in every > > way, and the price premium, in 2005, was "only" $1800. > > > > Now you can buy a used Summicron for $1000-$1500 or a new Summicron ASPH > > for $7000+. Why would that make sense for anyone ESPECIALLY if you are an > > working photojournalists etc.?! Magnum guys sell their stuff JUST fine > > without this obscenity. > > > > Of course they will most likely go to Chinese collectors and the like. > > Which is fine. It keeps the company afloat and may be eventually the 50/2 > > ASPH would be about $4000 used... > > > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 4:09 PM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz> > wrote: > > > > > To cover the extra R&D costs.... > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.reddotforum.com/content.php/310-Leica-APO-Summicron-M-50mm-f-2-ASPH-Deliveries-Delayed > > > > > > john > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Leica Users Group. > > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>