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Subject: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E
From: len-1 at comcast.net (Leonard Taupier)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 14:43:51 -0500
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Yes. It's the f4 model. I've never seen the f2.8 model.

Len


On Dec 1, 2012, at 12:59 PM, Robert Meier wrote:

> Is the Leica R 35-70mm lens you are talking about the f4 model?
>
> Robert
>
> On Dec 1, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Leonard Taupier <len-1 at comcast.net>  
> wrote:
>
>> Gene,
>>
>> I don't think the 180mm comparison will be too useful. I've  
>> compared those two lenses on the same body and the Leica is a much  
>> higher resolution lens. That's looking at both at f4. But the zoom  
>> comparison should be interesting and probably a good test. I  
>> compared the Leica-R 35-70mm against the Nikon's 24-70mm  
>> predecessor, the 28-70mm f2.8 and found the Leica lens had  
>> slightly higher contrast.  The newer 24-70mm is a better lens  
>> though. For both tests I used the Oly E-M5 which has a higher  
>> resolution sensor than either the DMR or D800 but being a M4/3  
>> sensor my test was only on center resolution.
>>
>> Len
>>
>>
>> On Nov 30, 2012, at 5:50 PM, grduprey at mchsi.com wrote:
>>
>>> Frank,
>>>
>>> No I have not seen any comparisons of the DMR and D800E.  Can't  
>>> comment on the D800, but I do have a D4, and just off the top,  
>>> the DMR does a fair job against the D4 for an 8? year old  
>>> design.  Although I have not made a side by side comparison of  
>>> images.  The D4 kills the DMR when it comes to high ISO, and  
>>> kills just about anything else in that category.  The D4 is very  
>>> waterproof, from recent experience, where the DMR may not be as  
>>> good, as I keep it out of the rain when I am not shooting, but it  
>>> has not had any glitches when it did get wet, but I worry about  
>>> the motor to camera interface not being too water tight.  They  
>>> are both heavy, pretty close actually, the DMR on the R8 is a bit  
>>> shorter than the D4.  Turn on is much slower with the DMR, and so  
>>> is write speed.  The buffer on the DMR is very small, where the  
>>> D4 buffer is vast and you can shoot rapidly with no problem of  
>>> the camera slowing down (great for bird in flight photos),  
>>> although i would bet Doug would out do
>   it
>>>  with the DMR and a single click ;).  The R8DMR is a bit quieter,  
>>> noise wise, but the D4 beats the D800 or D700 by light years in  
>>> this area.  I prefer the simplicity of the DMR controls over  
>>> those of the D4, although the D4 controls are well laid out, when  
>>> compared to earlier Nikon DSLRs, and definitely better than Canon  
>>> DSLRs.  You can get D4 batteries, where the DMR batteries are  
>>> rarer than Hen's Teeth, and must be rebuilt or use an external  
>>> source if you cannot get them rebuilt.  The charge also lasts way  
>>> longer than the DMR's batteries, although they are not cheap by  
>>> any measure.  The auto focus on the D4 is simply AMAZING! It  
>>> locks on very fast and no hunting at all, even in low light, MF  
>>> with the D4 and older MF Nikkors is very good also, as it has a  
>>> bright view finder (but not as quite as bright as the R8 I  
>>> think).  MF on the DMR is getting a bit slow with my 64 year old  
>>> eyes, but still works good in most light levels. Build for both  
>>> is excellent, but would give the
>   D
>>> 4 a bit of a nod here, due to the previously mentioned motor to  
>>> camera body interface of the DMR.  I will go out this weekend and  
>>> do a side by side image test of the two, probably with the  
>>> 180/2.8 MF Nikkor, and the 180/3.4 R APO lenses (Similar vintage  
>>> lenses), don't have any other similar lenses to compare.  But  
>>> could do a comparison of my 35~70R zoom and my 24~70 AF-S Nikkor  
>>> zoom.  Any thing I have not covered, that you would like to know?
>>>
>>> CHEERS,
>>> Gene
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Frank Filippone" <red735i at verizon.net>
>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 1:22:20 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada  
>>> Central
>>> Subject: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E
>>>
>>> Has anyone seen a comparison of the DMR and the Nikon D800E?   
>>> Using Leica
>>> glass, of course.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Frank Filippone
>>>
>>> Red735i at verizon.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
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