Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/12/01
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]The prices I just quoted were B&H. That's where most pros I know including me for several decades have gotten their stuff from with an interim with camera world when they were around. On the west cost I'd order from them and get it in two days on my doorstep. Now I go there and deal with them face to face in the past six years. It pays to show a supplier loyalty. When they hit your name they see how much you've spent there and if you get a lemon they trade you for one which works. Mark William Rabiner Photography http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > From: Gene duprey <grduprey at mchsi.com> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 01:08:06 -0600 (CST) > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Leitaxed R lenses on Nikon > > Hi Mark, > > The last time i checked, about a month ago, the AF-S 600/f4ED VR AF G lens > went for $12,995, and yes these lenses are expensive and well built. Would > love to have the 300/2.8, but it is $5,895, almost as expensive as my D4. > ;) > Or the 400/2.8 would be quite nice. > > Cheers, > gene > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com> > To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 11:48:37 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > Subject: Re: [Leica] Leitaxed R lenses on Nikon > > I think for us to be Leica snobs does nothing for us, Leica or anybody. > > Nikon glass ideal for perhaps bird or wildlife shooting costs real what we > think of as being Leica money: > AF-S NIKKOR 600mm f/4G ED VR AF Lens cost $9,499.00 > Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 400mm f/2.8G ED VR AF Lens (Black) USA Price: $8,999.00 > Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 500mm f/4G ED VR II AF Lens (Black) USA Price: $8,389.00 > Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-400mm f/4G ED VR II Lens USA Price: $6,749.00 > > To imply that this is stuff shoddy in some way its pretty nutty. > > And I'm sure the Canon stuff is a bit bette or a bit worse in a example by > exaple basis. > > Oh! I see here: > Canon EF 800mm f/5.6L IS USM Autofocus Lens Price: $13,999.00!! > That's not chump change! > > The intense competition between Canon and Nikon for decades has made for > some pretty nice optics. And cameras. And other companies also competing in > the Japanese photo industry are also often right up there. Olympus, Pentax > and third party Sigma: > > Sigma 200-500mm f/2.8 EX DG APO IF Autofocus Lens for Canon SLR - Green > $25,999.00!! > > That's Leica money!!! > Can a company compete with Leica if they're putting their price point as > high? I think they can! > > > > > > > Mark William Rabiner > Photography > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > >> From: Gene duprey <grduprey at mchsi.com> >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 18:42:36 -0600 (CST) >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Leitaxed R lenses on Nikon >> >> That is very true about the cost being higher on Leica lenses, however the >> cost of new AF lenses from Canon and Nikon are not exactly cheap either, >> so >> yes I expect them to be correct at purchase. and yes i understand that >> there >> is some error in digital loop designs, designed many over my day, and we >> were >> expected to keep the design very tight at my employer, but when the lens >> Af >> is >> off by a noticeable amount, that is not acceptable. >> >> Gene >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Frank Filippone" <red735i at verizon.net> >> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 3:28:52 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Leitaxed R lenses on Nikon >> >> Well, in M terms, if I paid 10 ( 50 Summilux ASPH) to 50 ( 50 ASPH >> Summicron) >> times the cost of a N or C standard lens, no less something exotic, I too >> would expect the lens came with repeated FREE calibrations. >> >> ... because they ARE closed loop AF lenses. Errors are taken out in the >> AF >> control loops. >> >> AF does not mean no errors, it means closing the loop in focus around some >> artificial zero. The artificial zero is not absolute zero. It has offset >> and >> gain errors. The specific lens and he specific body are then nulled >> against >> their combined errors, in the adjustment SW in the camera. It is a really >> good system ( in theory). NASA uses it every day. >> >> I did a LOT of servo design and implementation and debug. >> >> Frank Filippone >> Red735i at verizon.net >> >> If Leica did this with their S2 lenses, think of the outrage that would >> generate from the users. They would be returning the lenses and >> demanding a >> repair or their money back. Maybe the N or C users just don't expect the >> lenses to be right on, in this day and age of the Software can fix it >> photography. I also hear that you must use the Sharpen function on all >> digital images to get them sharp, when I tell them I do not need to do >> this >> with my Leica digital images they are amazed. >> >> Cheers, >> Gene >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information