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Subject: [Leica] Leitaxed R lenses on Nikon
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2012 02:57:10 -0500

People who have been on the list more than a week know that no one decides
when the thread is over except Brian our beer keeper. The way a thread ends
is when the last person who feels like posting to it posts to it.. Then a
lurker sees it a week later and says something.
In my experience declaring that a thread is over just encourages people to
continue with it. Get the last word in.

Mark William Rabiner
Photography
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/


> From: jon streeter <jon.streeter at cox.net>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 18:58:47 -0800
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Leitaxed R lenses on Nikon
> 
> Hey, I wanted to be the one who issues a ruling that everyone ELSE has said
> too much and that it's MY turn to utter the last word and order the 
> discussion
> closed. When's it going to be MY turn to do that?!

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> Wireless Phone

----- Reply message -----
From: "Jayanand Govindaraj"
> <jayanand at gmail.com>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
Subject:
> [Leica] Leitaxed R lenses on Nikon
Date: Fri, Nov 30, 2012 5:57 pm


Gene,
Are
> you telling be that sending lens and body to Solms is a better
solution than
> spending a few minutes in your house to solve the same
problem? Methinks you
> doth protest too much! I personally think the
Leica bunch is much more
> credulous and much less critical of their
company's and equipment shortcomings
> than the others, that is all.
Anyway, enough has been said on this subject,
> all points of view
thrashed out, I personally think it is getting to be a bit
> of a
bore...
We will all continue doing what we want to
> do!
Cheers
Jayanand

Sent from my iPad

On 01-Dec-2012, at 3:10 AM,
> grduprey at mchsi.com wrote:

> Jayanand,
>
> I'm sorry, but I agree with Doug.
> These cameras and lenses should be right when they get to the user, and not
> require user adjustments to work correctly.  So far, My D4 and AF-S lenses
> have been right on when I received them, and I expect them to be correct.
> Would you not expect your new car or TV to be working correctly when you 
> get
> them?  It seems that today everyone expects defects (except the Leica 
> bunch),
> and that buying a software fix is just fine.  Oh, your lens is soft, just 
> run
> the files through So & So Software and it will be sharp.  Sorry not for me.
> Why even buy a N or C lens then, any old piece of junk will do just fine 
> after
> running the software lens fix.
>
> Cheers,
> Gene
>
> ----- Original Message
> -----
> From: "Jayanand Govindaraj" <jayanand at gmail.com>
> To: "Leica Users
> Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 9:09:11 AM
> GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Leitaxed R lenses on
> Nikon
>
> They are absolutely excellent wildlife shooting machines and I am
> willing
> to put the time taken to get them fine tuned and perfect, as are all
> the
> wildlife photographers I know of, but one. If you think they are
> shoddy
> don't use them. Period. No one is talking you out of using whatever
>
> equipment you wish to use. Talk about cognitive bias, narrow mindedness and
>
> chips on the shoulder. Get a life.
> Cheers
> Jayanand
>
> On Thu, Nov 29,
> 2012 at 8:31 PM, wildlightphoto at earthlink.net <
>
> wildlightphoto at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Jayanand Govindaraj wrote:
>>
>> It
> took me two hours to calibrate 11 lenses on two bodies. It is not
>>
> particularly time consuming or difficult.
>>
>> One would think that it would
> take less time to do it as part of
>> production.  It's shoddy manufacturing.
> The cameras are sold defective.
>>
>> Doug Herr
>> Birdman of Sacramento
>>
> http://www.wildlightphoto.com
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 8:18 PM,
> wildlightphoto at earthlink.net <
>> wildlightphoto at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
> Jayanand Govindaraj wrote:
>>>
>>> As an aside in this discussion, for
> autofocus lenses and DSLR bodies -
>> get
>>> something like LensAlign and
> adjust the focus using the "AF Fine Tune"
>>> function in the menu. The D700
> has the capacity to store values for 12
>>> lenses, and the D800 for 20
> lenses. Once you test and store the values
>> for
>>> a lens, and switch on
> the "AF Fine Tune" function, the values will
>>> automatically be used when
> you mount the lens. There is considerable
>>> variance, so this is really
> worth doing.
>>> <<<
>>>
>>> One must wonder why AF SLR cameras aren't made
> with less variance and why
>>> the onus of focus accuracy is dumped on the
> user.  OTOH, more profits for
>>> LensAlign.
>>>
>>> Doug Herr
>>> Birdman of
> Sacramento
>>> http://www.wildlightphoto.com
>>>
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