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Subject: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E
From: grduprey at mchsi.com (grduprey at mchsi.com)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 00:54:51 -0600 (CST)

Aram,

I will try to do it this weekend.  However, I can tell you the 24/70 f2.8 is 
a real gem of a lens.  Fast focussing, quiet and sharp.  Also expensive.

Cheers,
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: "Aram Langhans" <leica_r8 at hotmail.com>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 9:01:21 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E

Would love to see the 35/70 R vs the 24/70 N.  I am considering the D600, 
but will have to replace my Nikon DX 10-24 with something.  In looking at 
what Nikon has to offer for FF in that range, I cringe at every review when 
they talk about the massive amount of distortion, or the edge performance. 
That seems to be universal for zooms with Nikon and Canon and xxxx.  But I 
have never noticed much with the 35/70 R.  But have never done any objective 
tests.  Hope you have the time to make this comparison.

Aram

-----Original Message----- 
From: grduprey at mchsi.com
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 2:50 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E

Frank,

No I have not seen any comparisons of the DMR and D800E.  Can't comment on 
the D800, but I do have a D4, and just off the top, the DMR does a fair job 
against the D4 for an 8? year old design.  Although I have not made a side 
by side comparison of images.  The D4 kills the DMR when it comes to high 
ISO, and kills just about anything else in that category.  The D4 is very 
waterproof, from recent experience, where the DMR may not be as good, as I 
keep it out of the rain when I am not shooting, but it has not had any 
glitches when it did get wet, but I worry about the motor to camera 
interface not being too water tight.  They are both heavy, pretty close 
actually, the DMR on the R8 is a bit shorter than the D4.  Turn on is much 
slower with the DMR, and so is write speed.  The buffer on the DMR is very 
small, where the D4 buffer is vast and you can shoot rapidly with no problem 
of the camera slowing down (great for bird in flight photos), although i 
would bet Doug would out do it with the DMR and a single click ;).  The 
R8DMR is a bit quieter, noise wise, but the D4 beats the D800 or D700 by 
light years in this area.  I prefer the simplicity of the DMR controls over 
those of the D4, although the D4 controls are well laid out, when compared 
to earlier Nikon DSLRs, and definitely better than Canon DSLRs.  You can get 
D4 batteries, where the DMR batteries are rarer than Hen's Teeth, and must 
be rebuilt or use an external source if you cannot get them rebuilt.  The 
charge also lasts way longer than the DMR's batteries, although they are not 
cheap by any measure.  The auto focus on the D4 is simply AMAZING! It locks 
on very fast and no hunting at all, even in low light, MF with the D4 and 
older MF Nikkors is very good also, as it has a bright view finder (but not 
as quite as bright as the R8 I think).  MF on the DMR is getting a bit slow 
with my 64 year old eyes, but still works good in most light levels. Build 
for both is excellent, but would give the D4 a bit of a nod here, due to the 
previously mentioned motor to camera body interface of the DMR.  I will go 
out this weekend and do a side by side image test of the two, probably with 
the 180/2.8 MF Nikkor, and the 180/3.4 R APO lenses (Similar vintage 
lenses), don't have any other similar lenses to compare.  But could do a 
comparison of my 35~70R zoom and my 24~70 AF-S Nikkor zoom.  Any thing I 
have not covered, that you would like to know?

CHEERS,
Gene


----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Filippone" <red735i at verizon.net>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 1:22:20 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E

Has anyone seen a comparison of the DMR and the Nikon D800E?  Using Leica
glass, of course.



Frank Filippone

Red735i at verizon.net




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