Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/11/30
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]A classic "kit" as the Brits say is to have a Leica hanging off one shoulder with a JSK 21mm SA on it (super Angulon) ( Joseph Schneider Kreuznach) (f3.4) With an F and a 105 2.5 hanging off the other shoulder. Leicas and Nikons go together like peanut butter and jelly. Maybe a 180 2.8 after 1970 Leica rules wide angle shooting and an SLR is certainly great with a tele and a groundglass. You can mix and match brands. You don't die. Also nice to have a twin lens Rolleiflex floating around your camera bag. It's a brick which takes pictures. Squares. Nice ones. Big ones. 12 of them. Mark William Rabiner Photography http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > From: leo wesson <leowesson at gmail.com> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 07:43:55 -0600 > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Cameras Real Pros Use > > Long lenses are the reason I shoot professionally with Nikons. If I didn't > have that need, I wouldn't own DSLRs. I'd be all M9. > > Leo Wesson > www.leowesson.com > > On Nov 30, 2012, at 6:29, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> wrote: > >> One of my M8's has been back to Leica after I dropped in on a marble floor >> in India. Both of them were under water in Honduras. My M9 has never >> been >> back except to have the Noctilux matched to it. I guess I'm just lucky! >> >> Tina >> >> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 12:48 AM, Phil Forrest >> <photo.forrest at earthlink.net>wrote: >> >>> Nope, won't happen. >>> The Leica M9 failure rate was far too high for news professionals to >>> consider using them for work. It's a fun hobby camera but for the hard >>> working journalist, the Leica doesn't cut it. Both my M8 and M9 spent >>> about 40% of the time I owned them out at Leica for repairs. I >>> personally know owners of a total of nine other M9s in the Philadelphia >>> area and every single one of them had to go back to Leica a few times. >>> One of my friends went through three shutters in his M8 then two >>> shutters and a sensor in his M9. And he's a working pro in Philly who >>> luckily has Canon gear for backup but while his Leica was out at the >>> factory, the backup became the regular camera. >>> >>> All of the digital Leicas I have seen have had to have sensors remapped >>> or replaced due to the hot pixel / vertical line issues. So, about 20 >>> digital Leica M bodies in the Philly area that are owned by >>> acquaintances of mine and 100% of them had to be repaired. Not reliable >>> enough for a premium product. For a camera that costs that much, it >>> should not only be reliable, it should be PERFECT. >>> >>> You said the M9 was going to be the game changer a few years ago, Mark. >>> It didn't happen. It drove myself and two of my friends AWAY from Leica >>> as a matter of fact due to their incredible expense, slow service, and >>> then their declining support for the still excellent M8. >>> >>> So again, we won't see Leicas taking their place in the journalism >>> world. Everyone knew the rangefinder was on its way out by 1960, so >>> why would that change today? >>> >>> Phil Forrest >>> >>> >>> On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 20:58:56 -0500 >>> Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I do think though the M9 worked and the M is going to work a whole lot >>>> better and there are a huge amount of used Leica glass out there in a >>>> gamut of price points. Pros are familiar with what Leica rangefinders >>>> have done in the not too distant past and will be interested like >>>> they always have in what that might add to their work. I think the M >>>> is going to be a huge success for Leica and we'll be seeing articles >>>> about pros using them for jobs. We didn't wee that with the M9. We >>>> will see it with the M. Imagine shooting an f1 lens @ iso 6400! And >>>> video clips. I think the new M will get Pro support in the market; >>>> and Leica will be back in the hot spot at least where they were in >>>> the 90's. When sure a small amount of shooter used Leica but in each >>>> group there usually was at least one. >>>> >>>> Mark William Rabiner >>>> Photography >>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >>>> >>>> >>>>> From: Chris Crawford <chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> >>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 20:52:31 -0500 >>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Cameras Real Pros Use >>>>> >>>>> Nikon and Canon digital SLRs are used by 99% of the world's >>>>> professionals. Why? Because they're extremely reliable, have >>>>> extensive lens and accessory systems, and those companies are the >>>>> cutting edge technological leaders....and despite all that, they >>>>> cost less than Leicas. >>>>> >>>>> Professional photographers of all types are hurting economically >>>>> today, and that is especially true of journalists. They're poorly >>>>> paid, and newspapers have been shedding staff photographers to save >>>>> money. Leica has simply priced itself out of the professional >>>>> market. It really is that simple. On top of that, Leica's digital >>>>> cameras have had a lot of well-publicised technical and reliability >>>>> problems. Pros need cameras that "Just Work", every time. Canon and >>>>> Nikon cameras "Just Work". The lenses are affordable. The image >>>>> quality is magnificent. Using Nikon or Canon is a no-brainer. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Chris Crawford >>>>> Fine Art Photography >>>>> Fort Wayne, Indiana >>>>> 260-437-8990 >>>>> >>>>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio >>>>> >>>>> http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! >>>>> >>>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798 >>>>> Become a fan on Facebook >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 11/29/12 8:41 PM, "David Ching" <davidhhching1 at yahoo.com.sg> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Come on, don't tease, tell us all. Which one/s? Why, if you know >>>>>> the reasons. >>>>>> >>>>>> And why not Leicas? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> David Ching >>> >>> >>> -- >>> http://philipforrestphoto.wordpress.com/ >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/philforrest >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> -- >> Tina Manley, ASMP >> www.tinamanley.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information