[Leica] Leica in the LUG

[ricc at embarqmail.com (Ric Carter)]

if it were not correct, we would not be here on LUG;^)

ric


On Nov 30, 2012, at 3:42 PM, grduprey at mchsi.com wrote:

> Sounds about right to me Peter.  And I still shoot with my M8 (Don't have 
> a M9), and R8DMR, even though I have a Nikon D4 to play with.
> 
> Cheers,
> Gene
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Klein" <pklein at threshinc.com>
> To: "lug" <lug at leica-users.org>
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:20:22 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica in the LUG
> 
> Geoff:  You're not alone. I am interested.  I really am. But:
> 
> 1. The M (240) is not yet available.
> 2. When it becomes available, it will only be available to the folks 
> that pre-ordered it.
> 3. Then it will become unavailable again.
> 4. The usual Web sites will publish glowing articles an how bleeping 
> incredible the camera is and how no serious photographer could possibly 
> live without it.
> 5. The other usual Web sites will publish snarky articles about how the 
> camera takes OK pictures, but nothing you couldn't do with a much more 
> versatile midrange C or N, about how it's neck jewelry for the "1%," and 
> about how they're not sure how Leica can still exist, even though it does.
> 6. Someone on the Internet will find something seriously wrong with it.
> 7. There will be several weeks/months of debate on whether the above 
> complainer used proper methodology, whether it's really a problem, and 
> whether Leica will survive the outrage.
> 8. Leica will fix whatever problem was found.
> 9. The camera will become available again.
> 10. Something Later and Newer will capture the attention of the 
> photographic hive mind.
> 
> It's somewhere between Steps 8 and 10 that I will consider whether the 
> new M might improve my photography sufficiently that it would be worth 
> selling a bunch of stuff and depleting my retirement savings to buy it.  
> If it would, I may bite. If not, I might upgrade to an M9 that a new M 
> purchaser is unloading.  Meanwhile, I'm reading everything I can about 
> the new M.  I'm hoping the new sensor puts it in the same high ISO 
> ballpark as the better DSLRs and the Fuji X-Pro 1. I'm optimistic that 
> it will still show the character of those incrediblishe lensen vee love 
> zo much  (mit apologies to Jon Streeter  :-)
> 
> In the meantime, I continue to shoot with my M8 (remember them?). And 
> also with an un-Leica with very modern technology (Oly OM-D E-M5) for 
> the things that a rangefinder and digital Leicas don't do as well. 
> Unfortunately, that includes ISOs of over 800.
> 
> Knock wood, I can still focus an RF at one year shy of 60, and it's 
> still my preferred way of working. If I had money to burn, I would 
> already own an MM--I love B&W, and it does beautiful high ISO. And if 
> hard times hit and I had to sell all my toys but a few, I'd keep my M6 
> and a 50 Summicron, and shoot whatever fast B&W film was out there.
> 
> So, can I stay?  :-)
> 
> --Peter
> 
> Geoff Hopkinson wrote:
>> Am I alone in being also interested in the forthcoming new Leica cameras
>> here? Post activity sometimes seems to be anything but Leica
>> My delete key is wearing out prematurely ;-)
>> Paradigm shifts, Fujis, Sonys, DXO whatever,.... can't tell the
>> difference.....a new crop of why product X or S is better than the M9,
>> three years after the M9 actually came out and it is discontinued now
>> anyway.
>> The M typ 240  will be a huge evolution. Mine's on order. I guess we have
>> no S system owners at all? but that new model is also evolving a great 
>> deal.
>> At least the Monochrom is of interest and that one really is a "paradigm
>> shift"
>> Jeesh!
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Geoff
>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
> 
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