Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/11/29

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Subject: [Leica] Subject: Re: Fuji X 100 versus Leica M9
From: photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 22:49:36 +0100
References: <CCDD2F51.26E9E%mark@rabinergroup.com> <94FFD29E-BD6E-4689-A21D-9E7FBB803FCB@frozenlight.eu> <3EFE35F24F5149C8BBEC4E9124A5E929@jimnichols>

A few coming right up within the next few minutes :-)

Nathan Wajsman
Alicante, Spain
http://www.frozenlight.eu
http://www.greatpix.eu
PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/


YNWA




On Nov 29, 2012, at 10:02 PM, Jim Nichols wrote:

> I'm waiting to see your X-100 images.  I sometimes wish I had one of those.
> 
> Jim Nichols
> Tullahoma, TN USA
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathan Wajsman" <photo at 
> frozenlight.eu>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Subject: Re: Fuji X 100 versus Leica M9
> 
> 
>> While you guys read dpreview, I take pictures.
>> 
>> Nathan Wajsman
>> Alicante, Spain
>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
>> 
>> 
>> YNWA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 9:27 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>> 
>>> http://www.dpreview.com/previews/sony-cybershot-dsc-rx1
>>> 
>>> " The body of the RX1 is clearly smaller (than the fuji X 100) but the 
>>> lens
>>> (which is actually 35mm, rather than being equivalent to 35mm) is longer.
>>> Neither of these cameras is pocketable, but equally, neither is anywhere
>>> near as large or obvious as a DSLR."
>>> 
>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>> Photography
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> From: Mark William Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 14:59:32 -0500
>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Subject: Re: Fuji X 100 versus Leica M9
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry for being unclear I know that the RX1 is in one respect not the
>>>> digital Rollei 35 and or Oly XA as it would not fit in a jeans pocket 
>>>> like
>>>> they can.
>>>> (its the 1.5 crop bodies coming out in the next year which I expect to 
>>>> fit
>>>> in a jeans pocket)
>>>> 
>>>> The lens though overwhelms me and in really a good way.
>>>> Yes that might be the aspect of the system which makes it not 
>>>> pocketable.
>>>> But what a lens!
>>>> I think their thought is to make it worthy of a lens which is not
>>>> interchangeable.
>>>> My God is it gorgeous! It takes my breath away!
>>>> Possibly a classic like the Zeiss 40mm Tessar and then Sonar that came 
>>>> with
>>>> the Rollei 35. (I have the Tessar from the first year of manufacture in
>>>> Germany)
>>>> How could a lens that gorgeous not make premium images is my only
>>>> impression.
>>>> 
>>>> By the way you can fully see the lens here and also the camera compared 
>>>> to
>>>> the Fuji.
>>>> http://www.dpreview.com/previews/sony-cybershot-dsc-rx1/images/comparedtofuj
>>>> i_top.jpg
>>>> 
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/d2c2ry4
>>>> 
>>>> To me it bears the verisimilitude of a real camera.
>>>> And I spelt that right the first time...
>>>> 
>>>> In a way its about the same size but in a way its a tad smaller. A lot 
>>>> less
>>>> long from side to side. But fatter.
>>>> So in a way were looking at a smaller body but with a larger sensor.
>>>> 
>>>> Smaller body
>>>> Larger sensor
>>>> Both at once.
>>>> Big news.
>>>> 
>>>> And full frame compacts from the rest of the industry are sure to be 
>>>> nipping
>>>> at its heels and some will be smaller. And I expect some will be even
>>>> pocketable.
>>>> I'm excited!
>>>> 
>>>> The hang up was not technology. It was the marketing people.
>>>> They just didn't think a small full frame compact at a full DSLR price 
>>>> point
>>>> would go over.
>>>> It think they're going to be proved way wrong and they know that 
>>>> already as
>>>> I'm betting Nikon, Canon, Oly, Panasonic and maybe even Leica has a full
>>>> frame compact halfway down the drawing boards.
>>>> I don't think wishful thinking but we'll find out soon enough.
>>>> 
>>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>>> Photography
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> From: John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz>
>>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:26:07 +0000
>>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Subject: Re: Fuji X 100 versus Leica M9
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am assuming that you have at least seen pictures of the  RX1? While 
>>>>> its
>>>>> body
>>>>> may be a little smaller than the X100 (which has both optical and 
>>>>> electronic
>>>>> viewfinders built in) its lens is huge, the bare RX1 lens sticks out 
>>>>> further
>>>>> and far wider than the X100 with hood. I would not expect it to fit in 
>>>>> my
>>>>> jeans pocket, possibly into lower pockets on cargo pants......
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> http://www.dpreview.com/previews/sony-cybershot-dsc-rx1/images/comparedtofuji>>
>>> _
>>>>> top.jpg
>>>>> 
>>>>> This shot also shows that the Sony has no shutter speed dial
>>>>> 
>>>>> john
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> 
>>>>>> If they're going to make smaller than full frame compacts they are 
>>>>>> going to
>>>>>> have to be truly pocketable.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> They have to not almost fit in your pocket like an RX1 does.
>>>>>> They have to fit in your jeans pocket.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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In reply to: Message from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] Subject: Re: Fuji X 100 versus Leica M9)
Message from photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman) ([Leica] Subject: Re: Fuji X 100 versus Leica M9)
Message from jhnichols at lighttube.net (Jim Nichols) ([Leica] Subject: Re: Fuji X 100 versus Leica M9)