[Leica] Leica in the LUG

[hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson)]

Steve I think your comment regarding members being 'self indulgent'
discussing new Leica equipment was unreasonable.
What is the LUG for if not discussions on camera equipment and photography?
In fact I was only attempting to introduce a new discussion on Leica
equipment. The L.

I enjoyed Peter's list predicting the stages of arrival of a new Leica
model.
Your number 11 is obviously aimed at me. I promise that I have no coercive
or corrupting powers ;-)
Some list members are interested in the forthcoming products. Just filter
what you want to read, as I think most of us do.


Cheers,
Geoff
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman



On 29 November 2012 23:24, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:20 AM, Peter Klein <pklein at threshinc.com> wrote:
>
> > Geoff:  You're not alone. I am interested.  I really am. But:
> >
> > 1. The M (240) is not yet available.
> > 2. When it becomes available, it will only be available to the folks
> that pre-ordered it.
> > 3. Then it will become unavailable again.
> > 4. The usual Web sites will publish glowing articles an how bleeping
> incredible the camera is and how no serious photographer could possibly
> live without it.
> > 5. The other usual Web sites will publish snarky articles about how the
> camera takes OK pictures, but nothing you couldn't do with a much more
> versatile midrange C or N, about how it's neck jewelry for the "1%," and
> about how they're not sure how Leica can still exist, even though it does.
> > 6. Someone on the Internet will find something seriously wrong with it.
> > 7. There will be several weeks/months of debate on whether the above
> complainer used proper methodology, whether it's really a problem, and
> whether Leica will survive the outrage.
> > 8. Leica will fix whatever problem was found.
> > 9. The camera will become available again.
> > 10. Something Later and Newer will capture the attention of the
> photographic hive mind.
>
> and don't forget...
>
> 11. months before it's available, someone will tell you that they are
> getting one, that it's worth it, and that it's the greatest thing since
> sliced bread.
>
>
> > It's somewhere between Steps 8 and 10 that I will consider whether the
> new M might improve my photography sufficiently that it would be worth
> selling a bunch of stuff and depleting my retirement savings to buy it.  If
> it would, I may bite. If not, I might upgrade to an M9 that a new M
> purchaser is unloading.  Meanwhile, I'm reading everything I can about the
> new M.  I'm hoping the new sensor puts it in the same high ISO ballpark as
> the better DSLRs and the Fuji X-Pro 1. I'm optimistic that it will still
> show the character of those incrediblishe lensen vee love zo much  (mit
> apologies to Jon Streeter  :-)
> >
> > In the meantime, I continue to shoot with my M8 (remember them?). And
> also with an un-Leica with very modern technology (Oly OM-D E-M5) for the
> things that a rangefinder and digital Leicas don't do as well.
> Unfortunately, that includes ISOs of over 800.
> >
> > Knock wood, I can still focus an RF at one year shy of 60, and it's
> still my preferred way of working. If I had money to burn, I would already
> own an MM--I love B&W, and it does beautiful high ISO. And if hard times
> hit and I had to sell all my toys but a few, I'd keep my M6 and a 50
> Summicron, and shoot whatever fast B&W film was out there.
> >
> > So, can I stay?  :-)
> >
> > --Peter
> >
> > Geoff Hopkinson wrote:
> >> Am I alone in being also interested in the forthcoming new Leica cameras
> >> here? Post activity sometimes seems to be anything but Leica
> >> My delete key is wearing out prematurely ;-)
> >> Paradigm shifts, Fujis, Sonys, DXO whatever,.... can't tell the
> >> difference.....a new crop of why product X or S is better than the M9,
> >> three years after the M9 actually came out and it is discontinued now
> >> anyway.
> >> The M typ 240  will be a huge evolution. Mine's on order. I guess we
> have
> >> no S system owners at all? but that new model is also evolving a great
> deal.
> >> At least the Monochrom is of interest and that one really is a "paradigm
> >> shift"
> >> Jeesh!
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Geoff
> >> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
> >
> >
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