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Subject: [Leica] Fuji X 100 versus Leica M9
From: mak at teleport.com (Mark Kronquist)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 18:39:59 -0800
References: <CCDC0BFE.26D6F%mark@rabinergroup.com> <E70F5380-AE3A-4FEA-8FF9-5C3D7243FAA9@usjet.net>

85 f2 and 85 f1.8

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 28, 2012, at 6:27 PM, Robert Meier <robertmeier at usjet.net> wrote:

> Nobody knew what broken was.
>
> Sent from my iPod
>
> On Nov 28, 2012, at 5:44 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>  
> wrote:
>
>> A few of the classic nikon optics from the 70's and before had six  
>> blades
>> the 105 2.5 and the 80 f2 and not the best bokeh. Nobody cared.
>>
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> Photography
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>>
>>
>>> From: Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com>
>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 15:24:50 -0800
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Fuji X 100 versus Leica M9
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> Steve Barbour
>>>
>>> On Nov 28, 2012, at 2:29 PM, "Bill Pearce" <billcpearce at cox.net>  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm with Dr. Ted. I've been shooting since the late sixties, mostly
>>> professionally, and never thought about that. I could see examples  
>>> before I
>>> knew what it was where really bad Bokeh was disturbing, but that  
>>> wasn't very
>>> often and I didn't loose sleep. I have been told that Nikon has a  
>>> big problem
>>> with Bokeh, and I sure shot a lot of stuff for pay with those bad  
>>> nikkors, and
>>> heard no complaints.
>>>
>>> Well put, people seem to be more aware now, what with the name and  
>>> all. There
>>> are even camera/lens ads for the latest greatest "with wonderful  
>>> bokeh".
>>>
>>> (my iphone just tried to correct bokeh with "Bolshevik".)
>>>
>>> s
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: tedgrant at shaw.ca
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 1:37 PM
>>> To: Leica Users Group
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Fuji X 100 versus Leica M9
>>>
>>> "BOKEH?" Every time this word / effect raises it's head on the LUG  
>>> I never
>>> even knew the word nor what it meant for at least the first 50  
>>> years of
>>> shooting. :-)
>>>
>>> Then I joined the LUG  and one day it raised it's ugly little head  
>>> and of
>>> course went on for days, good, bad and ugly! :-) Meanwhile I'm  
>>> wondering
>>> "what the hell are these guys talking about?"  Then I was informed  
>>> it was
>>> all about the background out of focus effect! And where had I been  
>>> for my
>>> first 50 years not knowing this?
>>>
>>> Well heck my answer was quite simple. :-) I  always shot for the  
>>> maximum
>>> impact of the subject as that was always what I thought was most  
>>> important.
>>> Surprise! One day I was told .... "No the Bokeh is just as  
>>> important as it
>>> helps the subject look better!"
>>>
>>> Me?  "Really?"  So what the hell have I been doing wrong and  
>>> successfully
>>> for 50 years and never knew the word existed?   The effect? "Yes."  
>>> But it
>>> just never mattered!
>>>
>>> Oh well the usual thing. Different effects for different folks. :-)
>>>
>>> Although I now admit I am aware of it in how it separates details  
>>> in some
>>> situations.   BUT? Do I pay attention to it as I'm shooting? Never  
>>> enters my
>>> mind! Only on days like this when once a again the "ugly" ;-)  
>>> little word
>>> appears on my screen and I sigh and delete! ;-) "Have a nice Bokeh  
>>> day
>>> lads!" :-)
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> Dr. ted :-)
>>>
>>>
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