Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/11/18
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]As mentioned earlier would be nice if we could keep this on photo related topics. Scott On 2012-11-18, at 1:52 PM, jon.streeter <jon.streeter at cox.net> wrote: > The profit-driven health-care system in the US is, I have read, largely > the result of government regulation molded by wealthy and powerful > insurance companies and by plaintiffs' attorneys' ruinous lawsuits which > have caused doctors to pay exorbitant insurance premiums and to practice > preventive CYA testing procedures all of which adds to the cost. > > Few price shop for health care, so doctors have little incentive to reduce > prices but plenty of incentive to raise them. Ironically, this situation, > I have read, includes a government-regulated system which refuses to > authorize realistic fees to doctors. Many doctors are refusing to treat > Medicare patients. Others have quit the medical profession because of > insurance premiums. A severe shortage of doctors has been predicted under > the ACA. > > It will be interesting to see if the world continues to come to the US for > the best medical care. I should think the world's needy would be > innundating Canada, maybe Cuba, both of which supposedly have great free > medical care. > > I have also read that Canadians have to wait months for doctors' > appointments compared to days here in the US and that their system works > only because they have the option of sending some of their patients to be > treated in the US. I wonder if under "free" health care, that option will > remain open. > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone > > ----- Reply message ----- > From: "FRANK DERNIE" <frank.dernie at btinternet.com> > To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: [Leica] My wife - thanks! > Date: Sun, Nov 18, 2012 9:20 am > > > I am in the UK. I have travelled the world for work for 35 years. I have, > thankfully, almost never needed medical care but in both France and the UK > it has been satisfactory when needed. > My mother needs medical help quite often and I always accompany her, since > her memory is going. She is always kindly and patiently treated. > My sixth grandchild was born last week in the John Radcliffe Infirmary in > Oxford. I can't imagine anywhere has better care or more delightful > midwives. > The NHS is pretty good in my experience. > > I must say I have always been concerned to need medical care in the US. I > don't doubt the quality of the care (should I?) but since it is a very > profitable "industry" in the US the potential charges scare me sh*tless. > > Anyway, my present to me when I retired was a promise to never go to an > airport again, so a moot point... > > FD > > > >> ________________________________ >> From: Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu> >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Sent: Sunday, 18 November 2012, 16:26 >> Subject: Re: [Leica] My wife - thanks! >> >> As a father of two children currently living in the UK, I can only say >> that our family's experience with the NHS has been uniformly positive. >> And if you think the US "free market" system does not ration care, you >> live in a dream world. >> >> Cheers, >> Nathan >> >> Nathan Wajsman >> Alicante, Spain >> http://www.frozenlight.eu >> http://www.greatpix.eu >> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ >> >> >> YNWA >> >> >> >> >> On Nov 18, 2012, at 4:25 PM, jon.streeter wrote: >> >>> Don't get me started on socialized medicine. Britain stopped treating >>> macular-degeneration patients a couple of years ago on the grounds that, >>> well, it's incurable. So let's forget about trying? What's next? Stop >>> treating the elderly because they're going to die pretty soon anyway? >>> Your hospital fired you: was it something you said? >>> >>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone >>> >>> ----- Reply message ----- >>> From: "scleroplex" <scleroplex at gmail.com> >>> To: <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Subject: [Leica] My wife - thanks! >>> Date: Sun, Nov 18, 2012 5:35 am >>> >>> >>> Dear Douglas, >>> My best wishes to your wife and you. >>> >>> I am always sad to hear of missed diagnoses because imaging was not >>> resorted to early on. >>> It is an enduring fight with both insurance companies and socialists >>> within >>> medicine for whom >>> the total cost to society outweighs any benefit to the individual. >>> >>> The socialists running the hospital which fired me 2 years ago has >>> published numerous papers >>> aiming to scare people away from imaging as well as defaming the >>> intentions >>> of doctors who order MRI scans. >>> My takedown of their latest fraud is here - >>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/scleroplex/6811713204/ >>> >>> It is very sad that the two of you have been put into this spin cycle in >>> the first place. >>> Never ever ever give up and do remain aggressive. >>> >>> There are many breast cancer trials presently - >>> http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?term=breast+cancer&recr=Open&rslt=&type=&cond=&intr=&outc=&spons=&lead=&id=&state1=&cntry1=&state2=&cntry2=&state3=&cntry3=&locn=&gndr=&rcv_s=&rcv_e=&lup_s=&lup_e= >>> One can search by country as well. >>> >>> Enjoy every single day. >>> Bharani >>> >>> Bharani Padmanabhan MD PhD >>> Boston >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Message: 28 >>> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 01:18:37 -0000 >>> From: "Douglas Barry" <imra at iol.ie> >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] My wife - thanks! >>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Message-ID: <A5AEAF67FE8B412A9E7E91A5FAB923BF at Family> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >>> reply-type=original >>> >>> A very rough period for both of you, Gerry, I hope all goes well. >>> >>> My wife and I are spinning through the same rinse cycle in that >>> particular >>> hellish washing machine right now. G was diagnosed in the latter part of >>> August - primary breast cancer with lots of secondary tumours in her >>> bones. >>> Missed by two doctors when she went to them about her bad back. Took a >>> third >>> visit and a demand for an MRI to determine the real problem. Specialist >>> team >>> are great though. However, no promise of cure either, but they're hoping >>> it >>> can be controlled. I could fill several pages on the various operations >>> and >>> hospital stays, but... >>> >>> Anyway she was released home yesterday three inches shorter than she >>> used to >>> be, but hopefully things will pick up from now on. >>> >>> Personally, photography has gone out the window in a blizzard of domestic >>> duties. It's certainly an altered life. >>> >>> Douglas >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information