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Subject: [Leica] Coded Flange replacements....
From: jhnichols at lighttube.net (Jim Nichols)
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 16:27:05 -0600
References: <20121117204701.MWZU10627.eastrmfepo101.cox.net@eastrmimpo110> <F4B13668AA154C8796E1E16625F5E4D0@syneticfeba505>

Sounds like there's some fire in the "old guy" after all.  Yeah, it's 
Saturday, because I've been watching college football.

>From another old guy...........

Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <tedgrant at shaw.ca>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Coded Flange replacements....


>>>> From: "Frank Filippone" <red735i at verizon.net>
>> To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Subject: [Leica] Coded Flange replacements....
>> Date: Sat, Nov 17, 2012 8:12 am
>>
> ... some folk want the EXIF data, others want the corrections in the 
> firmware
>> to be functional.
>> > Different strokes for different folks.......<<<<<
>
> Jeeeeesshhhh I just have to ask? Even if it's different stuff? :-)
>
> Knowing all this EXIF and not knowing it? Does knowing it make for better 
> content in the photo? Or in real time of capturing the moment? It doesn't 
> really mean a flying hoop whether you know it or not! Like does it make 
> you far more aware of the magical moment and when to go "CLICK?"
>
> Like? To what does it contribute to making a saleable or gallery or front 
> page cover photo? Capturing the runner winning the race? Or is it just a 
> thing that techies put in new cameras to annoy old guys like me? :-)
>
> Just wondering on a quiet Saturday afternoon. :-) It is Saturday isn't it?
>
> cheers,
> Dr. ted :-)
>
> Annoying aren't I! :-) "Smile!" Somebody had to ask! :-)
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "jon.streeter" <jon.streeter at cox.net>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 12:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Coded Flange replacements....
>
>
>>I discovered in "How Beer Saved Civilization" that it's even more sensible 
>>than I had thought.  Available on DVD.
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone
>>
>> ----- Reply message -----
>> From: "Frank Filippone" <red735i at verizon.net>
>> To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Subject: [Leica] Coded Flange replacements....
>> Date: Sat, Nov 17, 2012 8:12 am
>>
>>
>> ... some folk want the EXIF data, others want the corrections in the 
>> firmware
>> to be functional.
>>
>> Different strokes for different folks.......
>>
>> Frank Filippone
>> Red735i at verizon.net
>>
>>
>> And remind me why I would spend $120-$250 on this 6-bit business rather 
>> than
>> on something sensible like beer?
>>
>> My 1.2/35mm CV works just fine on my M8 without any coding, so that is 
>> the
>> big deal?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Nathan
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 17, 2012, at 7:12 AM, Frank Filippone wrote:
>>
>>> All true.  Correct focus is the issue.  However, if your lens was in
>>> calibration before you changed the flange, then if it is in focus ( at
>>> any
>>> place) after changing the flange, no further testing is required.
>>>
>>> As I said at first, if your lens is out of calibration to begin with,
>>> you need a calibration done on the lens.  Why not change the flange
>>> before sending the lens in, and get that advantage as well....
>>>
>>> Of course, it is a cost issue... $250 or so with flange at Leica or $100
>>> plus $20 flange at DAG.   Same end result.
>>>
>>> Frank Filippone
>>> Red735i at verizon.net
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: lug-bounces+red735i=verizon.net at leica-users.org
>>> [mailto:lug-bounces+red735i=verizon.net at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Marty Deveney
>>> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 7:53 PM
>>> To: Leica Users Group
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Coded Flange replacements....
>>>
>>> There is no issue of being able to change the flange yourself or if
>>> all 6 screws are absolutely required (they are not), it's just that if
>>> you change the flange yourself the only way you have of checking if
>>> the focus is still correct is to shoot, and this requires a lot of
>>> careful testing at different distances and apertures, and if there is
>>> a problem it is well beyond the capability of most people to fix it
>> themselves.
>>>
>>> Marty
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Frank Filippone
>>> <red735i at verizon.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Guess it must be OK for mere mortals as well......
>>>>
>>>> Frank Filippone
>>>> Red735i at verizon.net
>>>>
>>>> Leica just put the new flange on with five screws, my Noctilux and
>>>> 75mm Summilux are both like that after their trip to Solms.
>>>>
>>>> john
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There ARE 6 screws in Leica M lenses.  However, there are 2 hole
>> patterns.
>>>> One of the patterns allows for the replacement flange to be fitted
>>>> and use all 6 screws.  The other pattern, has a screw right where the
>>>> 6 bit codes are.. So upon replacement, only 5 screws are used.
>>>>
>>>> I do not know what Leica does about this dilemma, but for us mere
>>>> mortals, it means there are 2 different flanges to choose from.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Frank Filippone
>>>>
>>>>
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