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Subject: [Leica] Review of Fuji's new X-E1 with zoom lens.
From: jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 08:18:09 +0530
References: <1616F0BA-C73C-43A1-9518-EB565F3EBB26@gmail.com> <CCC5A925.260A2%mark@rabinergroup.com>

I am amazed at the amount of Confirmation Bias rampant on the list! (-:
It is an exceedingly dangerous mindset....
Cheers
Jayanand

On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 5:42 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
wrote:

> Your whole photo deal is output defined.
> If all you're doing is uploading jpegs which are a few hundred pixies
> across
> then its not really worth it to spend a lot of money on good camera bodies
> with larger sensors and glass. You can use a point and shoot with a smaller
> sensor than 1.5 or 2x crop. If you are somehow making it so people can
> download large files from your work then its up a notch. And Printing
> brings
> out the worst and best about your gear. So if you have a print portfolio,
> you hang shows or otherwise you print a lot its worth it to be very
> selective about your gear.
> And I doubt there's going to be a better way to go then with a Leica M no
> number afterward and farily current Leica glass.
> Leica S though is going to be a big notch up from that.
> Would love to see direct comparisons between the same subject matter shot
> with both systems.
> S and M. ( get it!?)
> And Leica M against canon and Nikon DSLR'S that everyone else is shooting.
>
> I cant wait to see my first Leica M movie. Shot with Summicrons.
> Reminds me of the taste of wild hickory nuts....
>
> Mark William Rabiner
> Photography
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>
>
> > From: Bob Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com>
> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 11:18:41 -0800
> > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Review of Fuji's new X-E1 with zoom lens.
> >
> > We should bring our Leicas and Fuji's to the burning and then compare
> prints!!
> >
> > Bob Adler
> >
> > On Nov 11, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
> wrote:
> >
> >> You are a heretic, to be burned at the stake.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Nathan (who owns an M8 and an X100)
> >>
> >> Nathan Wajsman
> >> Alicante, Spain
> >> http://www.frozenlight.eu
> >> http://www.greatpix.eu
> >> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
> >> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
> >>
> >>
> >> YNWA
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Nov 11, 2012, at 7:24 PM, jon.streeter wrote:
> >>
> >>> Is this why X100 images compare favorably with those from digital M
> when
> >>> seen on line, or is it because images viewed on line really can't be
> seen in
> >>> enough detail to-be judged?
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone
> >>>
> >>> ----- Reply message -----
> >>> From: "Aram Langhans" <leica_r8 at hotmail.com>
> >>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>> Subject: [Leica] Review of Fuji's new X-E1 with zoom lens.
> >>> Date: Sun, Nov 11, 2012 10:12 am
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Mark.  Back in film days, the Leica quality was always with the lens.
>  All
> >>> cameras could shoot the same film and vary the exposure the same way.
>  The
> >>> lenses made the difference.
> >>>
> >>> Now, with digital, there is one more variable between cameras.  The
> sensor
> >>> and firmware replace the universally available film.  Leica has to get
> that
> >>> part at least as good as the competition for the lenses to make the
> >>> difference again.  Hope they can do it with the M and CMOS.  They are
> >>> competing with the big boys who have big bucks and lots of years of
> >>> experience.
> >>>
> >>> Aram
> >>>
> >>> --------------------------------------------------
> >>>> On 11 Nov, 2012, at 00:47, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I don't think any of them will really come close though.
> >>>>> They'll be smaller and lighter then an M. But the image quality will
> of >>
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> M will be plainly visible.
> >>>>> Glaringly visible up from an APS- C camera.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Mark William Rabiner
> >>>>> Photography
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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Replies: Reply from gerry.walden at me.com (Gerry Walden) ([Leica] Review of Fuji's new X-E1 with zoom lens.)
In reply to: Message from rgacpa at gmail.com (Robert G Adler) ([Leica] Review of Fuji's new X-E1 with zoom lens.)
Message from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] Review of Fuji's new X-E1 with zoom lens.)