Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/11/06
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]When shooting film, I used a 'blad almost daily. Mine has taken a really lot of photos of construction workers, and never a lag problem there. Schlepped it and a few lenses up a safety cage ladder in a refinery several times and it seemed lighter than my D3 and lenses that I used later. Oh, hand held? never a problem. -----Original Message----- From: Mark Rabiner Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 8:54 PM To: Leica Users Group Subject: Re: [Leica] Marty, shutter lag in digital M The slowest decisive moment time lag goes to Hasselblad in which 57 actions have to happen before the exposure finally happens. On the long list magazines used to run when they got into this topic like when the "Real Time" Contax RTS came out the Hasselblad was decimal points away slower from all the rest. This never stopped it from being the official wedding camera used by the top people for many decades with a flash. And also used in commercial fashion and catalog situations where getting the decisive moment was very much part of the program. A wedding is like shooting a war. Things are flying and happening fast. If you can shoot a wedding you can shoot anything. Shooting weddings used to prime all my reflexes for shooting some photojournalism I'd do in Portland and street shooting before I switched from Nikon to Hasselblad. I don't think I ever lost a shot becuae of that switch. It might take three times longer for the exposure to happen. But as Ted says I think you just learn to anticipate. So its really not just about shutter lag. Its nice when its fast but no big deal when its not. Kind of just like the loudness issue. If it was people would have never gone from Leica to SLR's in the 60's. I think the only thing which came close to competing with Leica M's shutter lag wise was a twin lens Rolleiflex. I think I shot two weddings with mine. Really awkward getting the flash on and off and changing film. Mark William Rabiner Photography http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > From: Dennis Kushner <dennis.leicam6 at gmail.com> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 21:20:18 -0500 > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Marty, shutter lag in digital M > > That 68 ms lag between my M6 & & future M just makes it harder > for anyone to capture the "decisive moment". Not that I ever thought > about it. Too much thinking & you'll miss it. Better to listen to Dr. Ted. > > I saved the following quote by Sal: > > "Remember, photography is NOT about equipment, film, the zone > > system or whether or not you wear a Tilley hat. It is about images, > > and vision. Equipment allows one to complete their vision and create > > a photograph. Equipment does not create vision. God invented Leicas > > and Canons (the devil invented Nikon :~)) for the same reason he > > invented Chevies and Fords. It's all a matter of taste!!!" Sal DiMarco > > > > > On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Robert Meier <robertmeier at usjet.net> > wrote: > >> Marty, >> >> So you are saying that Leica measured the lag of the M8 and M9 at 80 ms, >> and the M3 at 13 ms. >> >> Robert >> >> On Nov 6, 2012, at 7:24 PM, <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote: >> >>> >>> jon.streeter offered: >>> >>> " <jon.streeter at cox.net> >>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 5:15 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Marty, shutter lag in digital M >>> >>> >>>> I desire the new M, but fear the crushing disappointment that would >> surely result if the shutter lag bothered me. >>> >>> Hi Jon, >>> Put disappointment out of your mind! Along with the many other techie >> things folks come up with! >>> Don't think about anything other than.... "CLICK!" You can't think and >> bat! Just shoot it! >>> cheers, >>> Dr. ted. >>> PS: >>> Like I offered earlier: Look at my website, TEDGRANTPHOTO.COM then >> tell me I was thinking about the magic moment image as I shot! Whatever >> moment you choose!! >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information