Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/11/06

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Subject: [Leica] PESO: sharpness is a bourgeois concept
From: ken at iisaka.com (Ken Iisaka)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 12:40:02 -0800
References: <86DEEB57-D31F-4687-888E-1F8830995113@frozenlight.eu> <017001cdbc5b$068c3470$13a49d50$@verizon.net>

I am with Frank, personally.

After a shoot, I go through them on Lightroom, and if it's not sharp,
relevant, or otherwise bothersome, they don't get a single star. If they
are at least interesting, they get a star. Every iteration, the duds are
weeded out, and only a very few get 5 stars.

Yet, I find this image quite compelling. The blurriness of the subjects is
primarily due to the slow shutter, not from inaccurate focus or camera
shake. In addition, the rain between the subjects and the camera create
additional blurriness.

Nicely done.

On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Frank Filippone <red735i at 
verizon.net>wrote:

> A Different point of view......
>
> I like Nathan's image.  It has character, mystique, etc.
>
> In my world, and YMMV, if it is not sharp, it gets tossed.  First pass.  I
> don't care what the subject, what the feeling, etc.  Not sharp = Out.
>
> I did some IR pictures with my M8 a while back... that look of softness,
> foggy softness, bothered me a lot.  I did keep the images, but they bother
> me because they are not tack sharp.
>
> I know in this Group, sharpness is not always esteemed as being the #1
> criteria, and so be it.  Your photos are yours.  Mine are mine.  We agree
> to
> have differing
> criteria of acceptance.
>
> Yes, if the shutter button is not pressed, the image is nonexistent.
> But sometimes, existent images should not .... exist.
>
> My opinion... and nothing to do with Nathan's shot....
>
> Frank Filippone
> Red735i at verizon.net
>
>
>
> The lesson? Maybe none, but I think it is something along the lines of
> "just
> take the damn picture"!
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
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Ken Iisaka
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Replies: Reply from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] PESO: sharpness is a bourgeois concept)
In reply to: Message from photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman) ([Leica] PESO: sharpness is a bourgeois concept)
Message from red735i at verizon.net (Frank Filippone) ([Leica] PESO: sharpness is a bourgeois concept)