Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/11/03
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Bill, though most of my work is with film, I have shot a lot of digital and 'manipulation' is most certainly not part of my work. The guy who had his award revoked had been adding clouds to the image that were not there in reality. That is something that is very possible with film too. You can scan it and photoshop the film images, or you can do like Jerry Uelsmann has done for decades and composite images in the darkroom with no computer involvement. To suggest that because someone uses a digital camera that they are making faked images, and cannot 'resist' it, is offensive and shows an ignorance of photography's history and the current state of photography. -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-437-8990 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798 Become a fan on Facebook On 11/3/12 5:02 AM, "W. R. Smith" <wrs111445 at yahoo.com> wrote: >I shoot only film, so I'm no expert on the digital side, but I thought >manipulation was an intrinsic part of the process. Is there anybody on >the digital side who can (and does) resist it? > >Bill > > > > >________________________________ > From: Marty Deveney <benedenia at gmail.com> >To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2012 4:37 PM >Subject: Re: [Leica] Manipulation Disqualification > >Sure, but I think there are *vastly* better ways to improve one's craft. > >Marty > >On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com> >wrote: >> Marty, >> I agree with you there, but all viewers who comment bring in something >> useful to the table, including competition judges. It is up to us to >>take >> it in the right spirit to improve our craft. >> Cheers >> Jayanand >> >> >> >> On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Marty Deveney <benedenia at gmail.com> >>wrote: >> >>> Hi Jayanand, >>> >>> > What method of getting your work viewed, in your opinion, does not >>>lend >>> > itself to be open to biases? I think it is impossible to eliminate >>>bias >>> in >>> > the eyes of the viewer (a judge, after all, is just another viewer, >>> albeit >>> > with some power in the context of a competition). >>> >>> Perhaps I worded that poorly. There is no avoidance of bias. But in >>> competitions there is exercising of power and often this leads to >>> self-importance and glorified egoism. If you show your photos in >>> other fora, the viewers can decide if they like them or not, without >>> the additional influences of the viewers being given growing >>> self-important because their choice makes the image more valuable. >>> >>> > In this case, nobody seems to have read the rules, and apparently the >>> > judges did not check out the primary document (RAW file/negative) for >>> > transgressions either, which seems to be a huge goof up! >>> >>> That really is a goof up. It doesn't make any difference to my >>> assessment of competitions, but it's also irrelevant to it. >>> >>> Marty >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >_______________________________________________ >Leica Users Group. >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >_______________________________________________ >Leica Users Group. >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information