Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/10/24

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Subject: [Leica] M8 craps out
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:27:26 -0400

I do think these cameras will be in a more compact category than a Leica M.
But closer to a Rollei 35. Or for that matter a Barnack. A Leica LTM. Or SM.
Its cameras which really do fit in a lot more pockets and have a lot more
possibility of being with you all the time. I do think the original Barnack
concept.
I don't get the Leica R thing is there an adaptor I didn't see that.
Not too much overlap between a Rollei 35 and a Leica R concept.
Most of the R glass will be far bigger than the camera. You'd have to be an
idiot to go that route.

Mark William Rabiner
Photography
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/


> From: Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 07:02:09 +1000
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] M8 craps out
> 
> That seems to be the feedback from a few disappointed R lens owners so far.
> There are no actual production cameras out there yet of course.
> Looked at critically the EVF is the only add on that might be called
> 'flimsy' or breakable. The R adapter hardly is.
> Is anyone aware of any reports at all of failures/damages to these EVFs in
> the field on other cameras?
> You can buy the identical model from Olympus cheaper to put on the M if
> wanted. of course.
> Alternatively if you can realistically support the combination (handhold or
> tripod) you can go without the EVF at all.
> 
> But this new M is not, or rather will not be primarily an R9 and DMR
> substitute. Rather it is an M camera with more capabilities.
> It's for Leica M buyers. For those that also have some good R lenses it has
> a bonus option.
> I think it acknowledges the same market realities that caused the R10
> cancellation.
> Recently quoted was that those active R lens users are a fraction of M8
> users who themselves are a fraction of M9 users.
> 
> I will almost certainly get the new M once they are both available and
> proven to actually do more for me than my M9.
> If using R lenses was my primary goal, I think I would follow Howard's
> route which is to adapt those lenses with the Leitax kits and use them on a
> full frame Nikon.
> 
> Cheers,
> Geoff
> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
> 
> 
> 
> On 25 October 2012 06:29, philippe.amard <philippe.amard at sfr.fr> wrote:
> 
>> what I mean is what do you gain from having so many flimsy bits and pieces
>> that can break and leave you stranded ?
>> 
>> looks like the worst of the R solutions by Leica aka M+nsap on gimmicks
>> 
>> R 9 dieselless me again
>> 
>> 
>> Le 24 oct. 12 ? 22:24, philippe.amard a ?crit :
>> 
>> 
>>  yuk
>>> me
>>> 
>>> Le 24 oct. 12 ? 21:46, Mark Rabiner a ?crit :
>>> 
>>>  http://www.dpreview.com/**previews/sony-cybershot-dsc-**
>>>> rx1/images/accessories1<http://www.dpreview.com/previews/sony-cybershot-dsc
>>>> -rx1/images/accessories1>
>>>> .
>>>> jpg
>>>> Or
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/95e322z
>>>> 
>>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>>> Photography
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.**org/v/lugalrabs/<http://gallery.leica-users.or
>>>> g/v/lugalrabs/>
>>>> 
>>>> 
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