Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/10/18

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Subject: [Leica] D800E pixel-peepers
From: dstella1 at ameritech.net (Dante Stella)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 23:28:25 -0400
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Translation: "The grapes are probably sour anyway."

Dante


On Oct 15, 2012, at 12:18 PM, FRANK DERNIE wrote:

> Personally I'd be surprised if the M appeals to many more photographers 
> than the M9, perhaps 10%-20%, plus maybe a few for whom it will be an 
> acceptable vehicle for their R lenses.
> I've been wrong before, though.
> I am a bit concerned that it may appeal to a few wealthy younger 
> photographers for whom the craft of photography is a bit of a mystery, 
> those who have only used auto-focus matrix metering photo-computers in the 
> past. A few showed up having bought M9s and they were -completely- baffled 
> by it. Their slagging off on the 'net was not pretty, even though it was 
> merely, unbeknown to them, merely illustrating their own lack of education.
> FD
> 
> 
> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> 
>> Sent: Monday, 15 October 2012, 16:21
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] D800E pixel-peepers
>> 
>> Because of the Leica M and Monochrom cameras.
>> Both will be sought after by top reportage people, street shooters. All
>> kinds of shooters really.
>> The M9 was not so much in the limelight because it was not so much in the
>> low light. Full frame alone was not enough to make the difference. People
>> want Jam on their bagels. They most certainly wanted to do what could be
>> done with a DSLR. Now they can. Even zoom.
>> We'll see a huge difference public relations wise with stories about top
>> jobs being shot with the new Leica M's. Night jobs, low light jobs.
>> Traditional standard Leica M jobs.
>> 
>> The Leica glass which has come out in the past decade will be allowed to
>> shine like never before. As well as the Leica glass from pervious decades.
>> 
>> My Leica glass is mainly from the turn of the millennium. The Late 90's.
>> Early 2000's.
>> The 21 and 24 Elmarit ASPH 's and the 35mm Summicron ASPH. A Noctilux and 
>> a
>> 135 f3.4 Telyt M APO. And two 90's an Elmarit from the previous vintage 
>> made
>> with NASA money and the ASPH APO Summicron.
>> When I got a new M its going to be quite a thing getting much of this 
>> glass
>> to work with it I guess. No clue how much I'll have to budget for that.
>> 
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> Photography
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>> 
>> 
>>> From: John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz>
>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 22:26:05 +0000
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] D800E pixel-peepers
>>> 
>>> So why do you think that 2013 will be the year of Leica's resurgence?
>>> 
>>> john
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> 
>>> Yes I would love a direct comparison of  a D600 with modern nikon 50mm 
>>> being
>>> put to shame by Leica's latest. The fact is Canons and Nikons are 
>>> producing
>>> gorgeous images every day by the top people out there as we speak. I'd 
>>> think
>>> for 5 times the money a Leica could edge it out a bit. But its not going 
>>> to be
>>> a big deal.  Nobodies going to be shedding a tear they are forced to use 
>>> the
>>> Canons and Nikons. Canon Nikon results are exquisite. Leica is proably a 
>>> bit
>>> more that that.
>>> 
>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>> 
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
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