Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/10/18

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Subject: [Leica] OT: large format lens vs. medium format lens
From: benedenia at gmail.com (Marty Deveney)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 19:14:38 +1030
References: <CAF8hL-Eur=MWNSYp0CMLgrxoJzHjws5vLX5oD5KoDuawt2rmew@mail.gmail.com> <CCA5377C.24F4E%mark@rabinergroup.com>

I have several Symmars and the Rodenstock Apo Sironars clearly
outclass them, in fact they outclass all other lenses that I have ever
used including the Leica M lenses, although I must pointed out that I
have never used the Leica S lenses.

Marty


On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
wrote:
> A Symmar 210 is the Holy Grail Leica optics of large format photography 
> from
> all I know. I wish I could have got that instead of my Fujinon.
> Its bound to be better than most options of any kind.
> There is all kinds of new glass now optimized for digital not sure how it
> would work with film.
>
> Mark William Rabiner
> Photography
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>
>
>> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 21:54:31 -0700
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] OT: large format lens vs. medium format lens
>>
>> Mark, Thanks for the suggestion. Understood.
>>
>> I know I can always "fall back" on the M9 and it's not very big so I will
>> bring that. I am debating whether that's the only camera, or use another
>> for main camera and use the M9 for backup.
>>
>> I am doing some stuff outside currently but my quick look at the 617 negs
>> may indicate that the Fuji 90 even at F16/F22 is not as good as the Fuji
>> 150 or the Symmar 210 at the corners. Combine with my not so careful setup
>> yesterday, that may be what I am seeing.
>>
>> I will do more thorough checking later.
>> One thing that is clear though I do love the rise /shift. It makes life so
>> much simpler for the landscape things,
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You got me wrong here Richard.  I'm not thinking about you and you're M9.
>>> I'm just thinking about you getting to know a new camera. Wouldn't matter
>>> which camera you'd also want to bring along I'd say leave it at home. I
>>> think its good to focus on one camera when you first get it to fully
>>> realize
>>> what it can do. The best way to do that is to not have any other cameras 
>>> to
>>> fall back on when you're out on a trip using it.
>>> Was it the Shen-Hao PTB 617?
>>> Very envious. I say shoot a lot of pictures with it of everything all the
>>> time for a great long while. Put all your other cameras in a trunk in 
>>> your
>>> basement lock it up and forget where you put the key.
>>> 6x17 is very inspiring to me.
>>> Also 6x12 would be.
>>>
>>> I also like their 5x8 inch. Just make contact prints.
>>>
>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>> Photography
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 17:28:57 -0700
>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] OT: large format lens vs. medium format lens
>>>>
>>>> Mark, if you have read my posting of images in the last 3 years, you'd
>>>> notice that I have boatloads of images with the M9. Including some that
>>>> have gotten awards in the B&W Magazine, and 2nd place in National Jury
>>>> Competition in a NYC Gallery.
>>>>
>>>> Not boasting or anything, as the same images have been rejected by many
>>>> more places and competitions, but you really should look at a person's
>>>> history before making judgment.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'd just bring that one camera and lens and focus on it.
>>>>> See what its like to "have that be your camera".
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>>>> Photography
>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
>>>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>>> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 12:37:57 -0700
>>>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] OT: large format lens vs. medium format lens
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have no problem of "shooting as testing."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Only issue is that this weekend, I am going to wander in the high
>>> desert,
>>>>>> looking for Sky Rock. It may be a hike of 4-6 miles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did I say it's high desert and perhaps heat wave? and that I will have
>>> to
>>>>>> climb rocks?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It would be prudent to make sure that whatever gears I bring, it will
>>>>> work
>>>>>> to the best of my ability. Don't you think?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (yes, the M9 will be in the pack. The question is, what else do I
>>> bring)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
>>>>>>
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>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
>>
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