Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/10/15

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Subject: [Leica] D800E pixel-peepers
From: images at comporium.net (Tina Manley)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 17:49:01 -0400
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Yes, I find that very sad.  Leica evidently knows where their market is.  I
would still not want any other camera for what I do, though.

Tina

On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Frank Filippone <red735i at 
verizon.net>wrote:

> Magnum guys got paid/ or were loaned free of charge to carry the
> cameras.....   it was/is an advertising gimmick.
>
> The market and technology of cameras has moved.  With a N or C camera,
> anyone can point and shoot as well as those in the old days.  If you are a
> working pro, the competition is the 15 year old down the street.. ...
>
> Leicas ARE expensive,  Yes, they are great optics, but not everyone needs
> that.  Rich guys can afford it....whether they need it or not.
>
> Looking at it a bit differently, the Leica ads are no longer about optics,
> but about lifestyle..... and that should tell you something about what
> their
> target market really is......  it is not about working photographers.
>
> Frank Filippone
> Red735i at verizon.net
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+red735i=verizon.net at leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+red735i=verizon.net at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of 
> Mark
> Rabiner
> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 11:08 AM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] D800E pixel-peepers
>
> I don't see it as a stereotype thing I see it as an oddball low cut to
> Leica
> camera. Called "Dentist" cameras or otherwise "rich guy" cameras it was
> most
> appreciated by top pros as in the Magnum people and some people who Saw
> that
> work and wanted to emulated it.
> Or the people who appreciated it in hand and knew the advantages of a
> rangefinder and premium glass.
> Or Care.
> The people who don't care are the ones who do quick write offs on it.
> Calling it a rich guy camera.
> Its a premium product. Cost a lot of money.
> Obviously your priorities would have to be there if you were going to get
> one. If you were in their target market.
> You have to  "get it" to get it.
>
> In the past I've had to do extreme financial scrambling to get an M6 body
> or
> lens. And as it paid off for me I did more later.
> Its not in the category of a causal buy like a medium range nikon lens or
> mid range body even.
>
> Mark William Rabiner
> Photography
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>
>
> > From: Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net>
> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 10:07:55 -0700
> > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] D800E pixel-peepers
> >
> > It is not a stereotype, it is a market segment......   A desirable market
> > segment....
> >
> > Frank Filippone
> > Red735i at verizon.net
> >
> >
> > Frank Filippone wrote:
> >
> >> Be happy that Leica has produced a new M ... even if they forgot how
> >> to count beyond 9.  But let's not get crazy....
> >>
> >> As  I have said in the past...   made for Doctors, Lawyers, and Indian
> >> Chiefs.....
> >
> > I have an intense distaste for stereotypes.
> >
> > Doug Herr
> > Birdman of Sacramento
> >
> >
> >
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-- 
Tina Manley, ASMP
www.tinamanley.com


Replies: Reply from john at mcmaster.co.nz (John McMaster) ([Leica] D800E pixel-peepers)
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