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Subject: [Leica] Fwd: D800E pixel-peepers
From: hlritter at bex.net (Howard Ritter)
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 18:36:19 -0400
References: <F5DB9C33-C536-4925-8E62-999A75DC19EA@bex.net>

Sorry, that should have been "conversion factor is close to _15 or 20_", 
meaning the number of dollars required to buy a given German commodity in 
2012 that cost $1 in 1966.

?howard

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> From: Howard Ritter <hlritter at bex.net>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] D800E pixel-peepers
> Date: October 14, 2012 6:20:43 PM EDT
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> 
> And the other factor of 2 is more than accounted for by the deterioration 
> of the dollar against, first, the Deutschmark and then the Euro. The DM 
> was four to the dollar in the '60s, less than two to the dollar when the 
> ECM adopted the Euro, and still weaker agains the Euro now than then. I'd 
> say the conversion factor is close to 5, meaning that Leica has maintained 
> vitrual parity of the cost of the film M in its home economy. 
> 
> Unfortunately, the inflation of the USD has undone that.
> 
> ?howard
> 
> 
> On Oct 14, 2012, at 3:31 PM, Chris Crawford <chris at 
> chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote:
> 
>> Mark, that inflation adjusted price is LESS THAN HALF what a new film
>> Leica (MP or M7) costs today. Less than half...the numbers don't lie,
>> right? Leicas are considerably less affordable today.
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
>> On 10/14/12 12:27 PM, "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 300 in '66 is $2,133.14 now.
>>> http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl
>>> 
>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>> Photography
>>> 
>>>> From: Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net>
>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 06:58:57 -0700
>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] D800E pixel-peepers
>>>> 
>>>> In 1966, when I considered ( dreamed is more like it) buying a new M2r
>>>> (cause it was cheaper) , the price was around $300.  It was Middle Class
>>>> affordable.
>>>> My Contax RF kit, bought used from one of my Mom's teacher friends, was
>>>> $100
>>>> and included 3 lenses and 2 bodies.  It was more affordable.
>>>> 
>>>> Frank Filippone
>>>> Red735i at verizon.net
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Back in the day the M2/M3 were cameras that middle class wage earners
>>>> could afford to own without stressing the family budget.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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