Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/08/31
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Mark, You can correct it on Wiki! Cheers Jayanand Sent from my iPad On 01-Sep-2012, at 8:08 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > The Doug Ball shot of Trudeau is a weak photograph. > You can't tell what Trudeau is doing unless you read a caption. > He's twisted in an awkward unattractive way and is almost unrecognizable > without a caption. The entire image is a week composition which > communicates > little if not nothing. > > The Ted Grant shot of Trudeau is an exceedingly strong image in which the > Prime minister is totally recognizable and communities completely his joy > de > vive in a way the Ball shot can only dream. > It needs no caption. > Though I wonder what they one they did you said. > Something redundant and unnecessary no doubt. > Re stating the obvious. > > Wiki in this case is totally out of the Loup. > > Mark William Rabiner > Photography > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > >> From: Emanuel Lowi <manolito at videotron.ca> >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 22:54:37 -0400 >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] MM - first impressions >> >> Ted Grant blasted: >>> >>> SO EMANUEL WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS??? >>> >>> My photograph of Prime Minister Pierre Elliot Trudeau of Canada sliding >>> down a stair case bannister hands held on high doesn't count, because >>> it's >>> shot in B&W. And not Velvia?????? >>> >>> When it's recognized as the most iconic politcal photograph in the >>> history >>> of Canada! Not by me, but the National Archives of Canada and many other >>> organizations of similar position. >>> >>> Is that correct good Sir? >>> >> >> To be clear, I'm now saying that Trudeau on the banister would have been >> wonderful as colour video -- full motion, with sound! >> >> For me, a better photo of PET was taken by Doug Ball, in London, England, >> in >> 1977. It shows Trudeau pirouetting behind H.R.M. Elizabeth II and her >> entourage, all oblivious to Trudeau's balletic maneuver. >> >> That's the Trudeau I recognize. (Full disclosure: he was my M.P. and >> worked >> down the street from me after he retired from politics and got back into >> law. I'd run into him on the corner at lunch hour.) >> >> Wikipedia refers to Doug Ball's photo as "arguably the most famous photo >> of >> Trudeau." >> >> Ball also captured Robert Stanfield's infamous football fumble, which "is >> said to have cost him (and the Conservative Party) the election." >> >> I worry when folks talk about souls, photographed or otherwise. It's a >> quaintly hopeful idea for the artsy photographer or for the pious. From >> what >> I can see, Life is in Living Colour. Death seems to be about fading into >> the >> momentary White and then into the permanent Black. That's why we don't >> want >> to go There. >> >> Most of the great B&W photos (I worry about this icon stuff too, seems >> somehow connected to souls...) were taken at a time when there was no >> colour >> film. B&W photography ain't coming back, despite the Leica MM. >> >> Emanuel >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information