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Subject: [Leica] MM - first impressions
From: kcarney1 at cox.net (Ken Carney)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 19:42:43 -0500
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Tina,

I apologize.  My post was yet another failed attempt at humor, difficult at
best in the web.  Yes, most everything I print is b&w.  I don't know if I am
tainted from darkroom experience, or if for some reason I just "see" better
in b&w.  Now, my wife has the ability to "see" and compose in color, far
better than I can.  But then she is a lot smarter and talented than I am in
every way.

Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+kcarney1=cox.net at leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+kcarney1=cox.net at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Tina
Manley
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 7:29 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] MM - first impressions

I don't agree.  I think Ted is right when he says, "When you photograph
people in color, you photograph their clothes.  When you photograph people
in B&W, you photograph their souls."  I see faces and eyes much clearer in
B&W than I do in color.  Color is just a distraction unless it is the
purpose of the photo.

Tina

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Ken Carney <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote:

> Ted,
>
> I'm not Emanuel, but, yes, I must say the photo of Trudeau would have 
> a little more interest in color.  In the interests of better 
> photography, I have supplied the following link to a program that will 
> allow you to add
> color:
>
> http://www.recolored.com/
>
> Yes, I agree the photo is somewhat  iconic in a sense and the b&w adds 
> a certain energy to it, but just imagine if it was color!  Now, once 
> you have corrected it in this software (just $29), you can get any 
> number of plug-ins that will then emulate Velvia.  Then the National 
> Archives will just pee themselves at the result.  There is no need to 
> thank me for these technical
> tips- we photographers look out after each other, yes?
>
> Ken
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+kcarney1=cox.net at leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+kcarney1=cox.net at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of 
> tedgrant at shaw.ca
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 6:27 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] MM - first impressions
>
> SO EMANUEL WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS???
>
> My photograph of Prime Minister Pierre Elliot  Trudeau of Canada 
> sliding down a stair case bannister hands held on high doesn't count, 
> because it's shot in B&W. And not Velvia??????
>
> When it's recognized as the most iconic politcal photograph in the 
> history of Canada! Not by me, but the National Archives of Canada and 
> many other organizations of similar position.
>
> Is that correct good Sir?
>
> Just a passing thought.
>
> cheers,
> Dr. ted :-)
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "EPL" <manolito at videotron.ca>
> To: <lug at leica-users.org>
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] MM - first impressions
>
>
> > Correct me if I am mistaken, but this M Monochrome thing will 
> > capture images in, er, black and white? Like, basically, fifty 
> > shades of grey? Grey? The colour of age and Death?
> >
> > This isn't like the second coming of Velvia. Now that was something. 
> > That was, like, a kandy-colored tangerine-flake streamline babe. 
> > Nice bright colours. Dreams of summer. Kodachrome on juice.
> >
> > I always thought that Ansel Adams was a wanker for depicting 
> > landscapes
> in
> > b&w. Like he was imposing humanity's morbid gloom on God's great glory.
> >
> > The painters at Lascaux used every colour they could see and could 
> > reproduce. No monochrome. Because they didn't go to school or 
> > imagine
> they
> > knew better.
> >
> > Emanuel
> >
> >
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Tina Manley, ASMP
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