[Leica] Times Photographer Is Arrested on Assignment in NY

[scleroplex at gmail.com (scleroplex)]

and here is a great article on the subconscious and conscious need to
identify with those we should be holding accountable.

after all, it is NOT the duty of a photojournalist to be deferential to the
police.
not a good photojournalist anyway......

http://barryeisler.blogspot.com.br/2012/08/you-will-be-assimilated.html

"Here's one you wouldn't think a journalist should even need to ask (but
you'd be wrong):  are there any public figures you refuse to honestly,
objectively, publicly criticize?  If
yes<http://www.salon.com/2011/07/27/sharpton_10/>?
it's worse than bad.  You're already suborned.  You're not even a
journalist."




On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 10:25 AM, scleroplex <scleroplex at gmail.com> wrote:

> given the awesome power and force the police possess,
> the responsibility is on them and them alone to ensure they are able to
> get their job done
> without causing physical harm to the public.
>
> it is the same for physicians.
> we cannot ill-treat the (frequently aggressive) families of patients while
> providing care.
>
> slamming a photographer into the ground, confiscating his/her camera
> and deleting the images within are totally indefensible from a profession
> point of view.
>
> it is a clear case of fascist retaliation.
>
> which is why ALL the cases have been dropped.
> in ALL jurisdictions.
>
> the police need to operate knowing that they are more noble,
> more professional and more disciplined
> than the cheap shutterbug infesting the scene.
>
> bharani
>
>
>
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> Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 23:12:42 -0700
> From: <tedgrant at shaw.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Times Photographer Is Arrested on Assignment in
>         NY
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> Gee I rarely had a problem with police .............. it's called a 280 mm
> lens I could turn into a 400 or 800mm in the blink of an eye with extenders
> if required! Step back quickly, don't argue or use any of that crap about
> "the public have a right to know" etc. when asked and shoot back into the
> crowd closer than if you were in the middle of it with a 50mm lens! It's
> called using your common sense and long glass for more than shooting a
> football game!
>
> Trust me if you have never ever been in the middle of this kind of
> situation? Please consider very seriously what you are going to write and
> whom you might blame. Do not make grandiose comments or blame without one
> iota of experince when confronted with a situation like this! Thank you.
>
> Yes this situation was in the evening!  ERGO: photog probably required
> flash
> use? So, it then requires a major amount of simple, read simple! "Common
> sense" logic to avoid becoming a pain in the ass to the law enforcement
> officers trying to do their job to avoid an out and out street  brawl
> situation????????  MAYBE?
>
> When asked to stop taking pictures.... meaning stop flashing that thing in
> our faces  ........... He, the photog, had a choice, stop flashing or stay
> and keep being a pain in the ass for the police officers attempting to stop
> what may or may not have turned into a bigger confrontation than what it
> was?????? Or they wanted to cope with?
>
> There are way too many details missing for anyone to make a "cops bad guys?
> "Photog bad guy? Blame!
> "Or his rights stopped!" Or whatever you want to drag-up to make the cops
> look bad! Get over it, they are not all bad guys some people try to make
> them out to be! Yep, there are a few bad ones. Just get over it and be glad
> there are more of them, "GOOD GUYS AND GALS" than the odd stupid one!
>
> Why not wait to read what the newspaper and police make as believable
> statements first, without waving your flag and constitution rights all over
> the place blaming folks before anyone actually knows the closest thing to
> the truth that actually occurred?"
>
> It would seem reasonable to have all the details first? Isn't it?
>
> Seems a fair and reasonable manner before making grandiose statements about
> what's written in your constitution ? And whom to blame? Cops? Whose job
> these days, they couldn't pay me a enough to be one of them trying to cope
> with society of today! Or a photog attempting to do his job and not using
> one iota of common sense!
>
> cheers,
> Dr. ted
>