[Leica] Times Photographer Is Arrested on Assignment in NY

[scleroplex at gmail.com (scleroplex)]

given the awesome power and force the police possess,
the responsibility is on them and them alone to ensure they are able to get
their job done
without causing physical harm to the public.

it is the same for physicians.
we cannot ill-treat the (frequently aggressive) families of patients while
providing care.

slamming a photographer into the ground, confiscating his/her camera
and deleting the images within are totally indefensible from a profession
point of view.

it is a clear case of fascist retaliation.

which is why ALL the cases have been dropped.
in ALL jurisdictions.

the police need to operate knowing that they are more noble,
more professional and more disciplined
than the cheap shutterbug infesting the scene.

bharani



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Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 23:12:42 -0700
From: <tedgrant at shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: [Leica] Times Photographer Is Arrested on Assignment in
        NY
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Gee I rarely had a problem with police .............. it's called a 280 mm
lens I could turn into a 400 or 800mm in the blink of an eye with extenders
if required! Step back quickly, don't argue or use any of that crap about
"the public have a right to know" etc. when asked and shoot back into the
crowd closer than if you were in the middle of it with a 50mm lens! It's
called using your common sense and long glass for more than shooting a
football game!

Trust me if you have never ever been in the middle of this kind of
situation? Please consider very seriously what you are going to write and
whom you might blame. Do not make grandiose comments or blame without one
iota of experince when confronted with a situation like this! Thank you.

Yes this situation was in the evening!  ERGO: photog probably required flash
use? So, it then requires a major amount of simple, read simple! "Common
sense" logic to avoid becoming a pain in the ass to the law enforcement
officers trying to do their job to avoid an out and out street  brawl
situation????????  MAYBE?

When asked to stop taking pictures.... meaning stop flashing that thing in
our faces  ........... He, the photog, had a choice, stop flashing or stay
and keep being a pain in the ass for the police officers attempting to stop
what may or may not have turned into a bigger confrontation than what it
was?????? Or they wanted to cope with?

There are way too many details missing for anyone to make a "cops bad guys?
"Photog bad guy? Blame!
"Or his rights stopped!" Or whatever you want to drag-up to make the cops
look bad! Get over it, they are not all bad guys some people try to make
them out to be! Yep, there are a few bad ones. Just get over it and be glad
there are more of them, "GOOD GUYS AND GALS" than the odd stupid one!

Why not wait to read what the newspaper and police make as believable
statements first, without waving your flag and constitution rights all over
the place blaming folks before anyone actually knows the closest thing to
the truth that actually occurred?"

It would seem reasonable to have all the details first? Isn't it?

Seems a fair and reasonable manner before making grandiose statements about
what's written in your constitution ? And whom to blame? Cops? Whose job
these days, they couldn't pay me a enough to be one of them trying to cope
with society of today! Or a photog attempting to do his job and not using
one iota of common sense!

cheers,
Dr. ted