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Subject: [Leica] Some technical speculations re: rangefinder
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 01:22:23 -0400

Me too!
No way in hell are they going to make the M10 bigger.
That would go over like a lead balloon, is extremely un Leica like.
And they've made that mistake before i.e. The M5.


Mark William Rabiner
Photography
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/


> From: Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 11:18:24 +1000
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Some technical speculations re: rangefinder
> 
> Respectfully I disagree.
> My prediction is for the M10 to look just like the M9  (and use the same
> lenses) with a new sensor, faster, smarter.
> None of that is to preclude other, different, additional products.
> If the first is true I'm likely to upgrade, if the second, I'm likely to
> upgrade AND be poorer still
> 
> Cheers,
> Geoff
> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
> 
> 
> 
> On 22 July 2012 11:06, Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com> wrote:
> 
>> Another two features, suggested by John Lee:
>> 
>> - high eyepoint viewfinder for glasses wearers
>> 
>> - builtin diopter
>> 
>> Both have been done already so again, it's a matter of collecting the 
>> state
>> of the art and implementing them together.
>> 
>> The M10 is likely to be larger than the M9, so may be there will be a
>> resurgence on used M9 sales :-)
>> 
>> On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Richard Man
>> <richard at richardmanphoto.com>wrote:
>> 
>>> Speculating on an ideal optical rangefinder system (i.e. something that
>>> retains the Leica M DNA and yet improves on the 1950 state of the art
>> M3),
>>> what if a rangefinder has the following features:
>>> 
>>> - LED projected framelines. This removes the clutter, solves the
>>> visibility issue, and
>>> 
>>> - changeable rangefinder magnification - what if the rangefinder has
>> 0.58x
>>> to 1.2x mag builtin (may be in 4 steps: 0.58x, 0.72x, 0.9x and 1.2x or
>>> something similar)? This would allow more precise focusing from the wide
>> to
>>> tele. This will leverage the existing frame line trigger and 6 bit coding
>>> system of course so this would be automatic
>>> 
>>> - parallax adjustment based on focusing distance
>>> 
>>> We know LED framelines can be done. The M9 Titanium has it.
>>> 
>>> The XPan has 2 magnifications: one for the 45mm lens and one for the 90mm
>>> lens. I have no idea how difficult it is to insert multiple mag piece as
>>> needed. Anyone knows?
>>> 
>>> The cam position should also give good indication of the focusing
>> distance
>>> too, along with the lens info, so #3 is technically feasible too.
>>> 
>>> Chances are Leica nor anyone else would really spend the resource to
>>> develop something like these, since a CMOS/Liveview is so much "simpler,"
>>> but would it be nice to have such a system?
>>> 
>>> --
>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
>> 
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