Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/07/08
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I wonder how many samples of each lens he has tested. To get a statistically valid evaluation of sample variation would probably require hundreds to be tested. I find Ken Rockwell to be a bit of a self-important plonker myself. FD >________________________________ > From: Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >Sent: Sunday, 8 July 2012, 18:55 >Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: First Intercontinental LUG gathering in Barcelona >News - MARK & DANIEL > >Rockwell has it all laid out here and he certainly agrees with you on >previous versions. >http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/24120vr.htm >He says its the worse lens ever made in the history of the modern universe. >That's the Nikon 24-120mm VR? AF-S NIKKOR f/3.5-5.6 >I see no discussion on good versions. And I though he was my source on that. >Thom and Moose agree with him with a tad less venomousness. >But that's the earlier versions: > >Rockwell says: >The new Nikon 24-120mm f/4 VR is a great lens. It is worlds sharper than its >predecessor, the fuzzy 24-120mm f/3.5-5.6 AF-S VR (2003-2010). Both these >24-120 AF-S VR lenses are much better ergonomically than their predecessor, >the clunky 24-120mm AF-D (1996-2002). All three Nikon 24-120mm lenses are >loaded with distortion. >http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/24-120mm.htm > >So lets not put all our 24-120's in the same pot. >The VR is supposed to work great. >I would kill for this lenes.... Slay dragons. >What you couldn't shoot with this lens and a D800 is not worth mentioning. >But again it's twice the weight and bulk than I like to have one me every >day. It's ok for a specific shoot when I'm going somewhere for a specific >shot. > > > > >- - from my iRabs. >Mark Rabiner >http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > >> From: John McMaster <john at chiaroscuro.co.nz> >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2012 21:04:43 +1200 >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: First Intercontinental LUG gathering in >> Barcelona >> News - MARK & DANIEL >> >> Really? The f3.5-5.6 VR was what I had and didn't change from 2003-2010. >> The >> current f4.0 also has variable quality from what I have read........ >> >> john >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> Every year that lens was re designed. Its real hard to know you're >> shooting >> with the same 24 to 120. Right now the version out is supposed to be quite >> good and I'd love to be shooting with it. Its just a tad big and heavy. >> >> - - from my iRabs. >> Mark Rabiner >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >> >>> >>> Amazing, I had that lens in D100/300 and nothing like that came out, >>> lens variation on improving on FF? >>> >>> john >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> >>> Mark : mine is the cheapest lens you can get 24-120 first version 3.5 >>> shot fully open - it is the lens no-one wants to buy from Ebay - >>> available for less than $100 :-) >>> >>> Now, I would like to get a copy of the snap SHE took of me - or is it us? >>> unsure though as she had a 50mm on. >>> >>> I may have shot with one hand - don't remember, as I was lugging my >>> suitcase along - Daniel might remember this, it all went too quickly. >>> >>> Best >>> Philippe >>> >>> Le 8 juil. 12 ? 09:16, Mark Rabiner a ?crit : >>> >>>> Was this shot with the 24 1.4 Nikkor? >>>> Sure is sharp as a sun of a gun. And at a 30th. >>>> But looks stopped down one or two. >>>> >>>> - - from my iRabs. >>>> Mark Rabiner >>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >>>> >>>> >>>>> From: Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net> >>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>> Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 21:58:46 -0500 >>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: First Intercontinental LUG gathering >>>>> inBarcelona News - MARK & DANIEL >>>>> >>>>> On my screen, there appears to be a tab at approx the 11 o'clock >>>>> position in your photo.? She is apparently holding on to the >>>>> focusing tab, so I would suspect that the filter is a polarizer. >>>>> >>>>> Jim Nichols >>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "philippe.amard" <philippe.amard at sfr.fr> >>>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 2:12 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: First Intercontinental LUG gathering >>>>> inBarcelona News - MARK & DANIEL >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for your support Daniel, I hope you had a nice return trip >>>>>> back home. >>>>>> I was really happy to meet you and will remember last couple of >>>>>> beers? on the square as a privilged moment in my life :-) To be >>>>>> renewed where and when we can. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark, have a look here, click large. >>>>>> I DK about the filter, sorry, we didn't even talk to her apart from >>>>>> asking permission... could be qualified as a missed opportunity >>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Phileica/LUG+in+Barcelona/La+Boque >>>>>> r >>>>>> ia-M9-Sen >>>>>> iorita-Sushi-8874.jpg.html >>>>>> or >>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/d4bwvgj >>>>>> >>>>>> Amiti?s >>>>>> Philippe, editing today's celebrations snaps >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Le 7 juil. 12 ? 20:48, Daniel Ridings a ?crit : >>>>>> >>>>>>> It was an M9. Pity she covered up the model number. I too saw the >>>>>>> filter. Don't really know what it was. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Daniel >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 8:26 PM, Mark Rabiner >>>>>>> <mark at rabinergroup.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> Are you sure it wasn't an M8 I thought I saw a dark grey flat >>>>>>>> filter on the lens? Maybe it was a polarizer? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - - from my iRabs. >>>>>>>> Mark Rabiner >>>>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: Philippe Amard <philippe.amard at sfr.fr> >>>>>>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 20:19:40 +0200 >>>>>>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: First Intercontinental LUG gathering >>>>>>>>> in Barcelona News - STEVE >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Steve, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> no need to ask my friend, they're part of the global emotional >>>>>>>>> assets of the LUG community :-) Just if you could rename the >>>>>>>>> first one as: "The other room 31", details will surface in the >>>>>>>>> course of time... and the story told again and again over the >>>>>>>>> years ;-) I think you know the guys' >>>>>>>>> names :-) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Other than that, the lady was obviously an M9 user, we actually >>>>>>>>> caught her in the act of shooting, but will remain unknown >>>>>>>>> forever, unless ... >>>>>>>>> I had asked her permission though, with Daniel as a witness. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Wish you'd been able to make it too, really. >>>>>>>>> TIA >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Amiti?s de Metz >>>>>>>>> Philippe >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Le 7 juil. 12 ? 16:51, Steve Barbour a ?crit : >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 7, 2012, at 7:41 AM, Jean-Michel Mertz wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the pictures, Philippe, they are packed with life >>>>>>>>>>> and wit, and one can easily listen to the laughter! I think >>>>>>>>>>> I'll make it to Barcelona next time, this place is a must for >>>>>>>>>>> Luggers! >>>>>>>>>>> Jean- >>>>>>>>>>> Michel >>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 00:12:59 +0200 >>>>>>>>>>>> From: philippe.amard at sfr.fr >>>>>>>>>>>> To: lug at leica-users.org; leicareflex at freelists.org >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Leica] IMG: First Intercontinental LUG gathering in >>>>>>>>>>>> Barcelona News >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi? all, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm back from Barcelona tonight, where Ted, Lluis, Geoff & >>>>>>>>>>>> lovely family, Daniel and Nathan still are, and I have >>>>>>>>>>>> selected three takes from today that may give you an idea of >>>>>>>>>>>> the marvellous atmosphere there. This gathering was pure >>>>>>>>>>>> magic for me. >>>>>>>>>>>> Special >>>>>>>>>>>> thanks to Brian without whom this would never have happened. >>>>>>>>>>>> No stacks from me though be patient they will follow from >>>>>>>>>>>> "the crew", but you may nonetheless enjoy these in the meantime. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> My first encounter with Doctor Ted, magic! >>>>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/cleubbr >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ted as a Christmas Tree >>>>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/7asd66o >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> And Daniel and I had been very lucky earlier this morning >>>>>>>>>>>> when we encountered the best of both worlds on the market. >>>>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/ct3xpeb >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Xtra special thanks to the crew too. >>>>>>>>>>>> Renewed hugs to "the Hoppies". >>>>>>>>>>>> Bien cordialement de Mutz >>>>>>>>>>>> Philippe, a little knackered after a short night and finding >>>>>>>>>>>> his car wouldn't start at the airport tonight, but German >>>>>>>>>>>> tows work wonders ... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I would love to use these wonderful images Philippe, in our >>>>>>>>>> Leica Users Gallery, if I may...please... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Steve >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > >_______________________________________________ >Leica Users Group. >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > >