Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/06/20
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Paul is the expert in digital printing. You have to see his prints in person to believe them. Absolutely gorgeous! Tina On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Paul Roark <roark.paul at gmail.com> wrote: > I tried and used all sorts of inter-negative approaches to silver > prints for several years before inkjets were any good. Some were OK, > most were not, and all added a few steps of frustration, cost, and > compromise. Having now gone through the various stages of inkjet > development, and having studied the alternatives to death, I must say > I have no desire to do silver printing any more. Aside from the fact > that some collectors may prefer them, they are inferior to what we can > now make with the best inkjet technology. > > The inkjets can not only look better, but they can also be more > "archival." I've concentrated on the longevity factor because that > was the assumed (correctly) weakness of the early inkjet products. My > hope is that all of the testing and work to get the longevity of the > best inkjet prints up to and beyond the silver print level will > ultimately lead to their being more accepted by the collectors, but > it'll take a while. > > Note that what I'm talking about here is beyond what most need for > their B&W work. The OEM approaches and third party B&W inksets are > fine for most uses. > > At an rate, for the highest end fine are and museum work, the 100% > carbon pigment inkjet alternatives available today are close to being > fade free. In http://www.aardenburg-imaging.com/ testing, a 100% > carbon pigment print on Premier Art Smooth 205 (aka Epson Scrapbook > paper) at 100 megalux-hours of exposure (51 Wilhelm years) had a 50% > density test patch delta-e of 0.1. That is, virtually no change at > all. The natural, non-OBA paper delta-e was 0.5. The 100% carbon > pigment test prints are achieving results that are many times better > than the best OEM approaches, and in the real world of unknown fade > factors, all of the approaches that use blends of carbon plus color > are at risk of differential fade of the color pigments. This causes > the print colors to go in directions we might not like -- e.g., > turning green. > > The limiting factor in longevity when 100% carbon is used is probably > the paper. Buffered cotton paper has a huge advantage over our old > wet darkroom paper. The silver print paper cannot be buffered due to > the acidic processing chemicals. Airborne acids are attacking them. > I have prints that have been in a metal cabinet since the 1980's where > I can see the yellow on the paper backs. it's greatest at the edges. > It is totally consistent with airborne acids diffusing in from the > edges of these stacked silver prints. > > Beyond that, in my digital restoration work, I find the vast majority > of very old prints are having microcracking of the emulsions. Some > conservators believe that all laminated or coated media will > deteriorate due to cracking or separation of the layers. The > differential expansions/contractions due to humidity and temperature > changes are inevitable. This, of course, also affects coated inkjet > papers. That is why I increasingly think that 100% carbon pigments on > Arches watercolor paper is our ultimate medium from an archival > perspective. The 100% carbon pigment on Arches prints I have on my > walls are among the very best prints I've ever made. True, up close a > coated inkjet paper can be smoother, and the best coated inkjet papers > can get a better dmax, but in display size prints in real world > display conditions, these make very beautiful B&W prints. > > Note that on the wall in normal lighting, the depth of the matte black > is usually deeper than the depth of a glossy black due to reflections. > For example, in my home environment, where I have 2 spot lights on > the prints, but also have normal room lights and light walls and > ceiling, when I put 100% black matte and glossy test prints under > glass at the place where the prints would usually hang, and I use a > spot meter to measure the depth of black from the normal viewing > positing, the matte blacks win. The "superior" glossy blacks are only > better with very good lighting -- as used in the spectros we use to > measure the test strips. In the real world, reflections make all the > difference. That, I believe, is the main thing that attracted people > to platinum prints. Even their very modest dmax looked good when > there were not reflections off the surface. Once I see a surface > reflection, the illusion of depth in the print disappears. Suddenly > I'm just looking at a piece of paper. > > Nonetheless, I've lately been trying to develop the best neutral > glossy inkjet approach -- using the most carbon possible as well as > the best and least amount of color pigments. The glossy carbon > pigments are very warm, so it takes a lot of color to cool them to > neutral. The OEM "gray" inks are all blends of carbon + color. So, > for example, your QTR ink loads of the color needed to cool down the > OEM gray inks do not tell you how much total color is in the mix. > While the Epson M and C pigs appear to quite good, they ultimately > will fade and probably at different rates, causing the image to change > colors. (The third party color pigments are terrible, including those > blended into the third party neutral B&W inksets, the ones I designed > and sold by MIS Associates/inksupply.com included.) While we can look > at the Aardenburg Imaging tests to find the best matched M and C > pigments, that is under ideal environmental conditions and that > particular light source. We simply don't know what gas attacks and > other factors might affect real world differential fade, which is the > major risk with these types of B&W prints. From what I've seen in my > development of what should be the best possible neutral glossy inkset, > I doubt current technology can make a good glossy print that I'd > consider museum quality. The OEM colors are good enough for most > purposes, but if museum quality is the goal, I'd stick to 100% carbon > on matte paper, with Arches probably being the ultimate photographic > medium. > > Note that I was able to make a 100% carbon neutral glossy print, but > it takes using un-diluted MK in a 1.5 picoliter printer, which is > still not very smooth. It also takes a lot of acrylic spray to nail > down the MK pigments. It's not worth the effort. > > My B&W printing views are summarized at http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/ > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > -- Tina Manley, ASMP www.tinamanley.com