Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/06/16
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Henning, I'm glad to hear that manual focusing is so smooth and easy. I've got a 90 Tele-Elmarit 2.8 I'm dying to try on it because I love the 180 2.8 but got tired of carrying that beast around. I know the Tele-Elmarit is old technology but I've been using mine since the 70s and it's sharp, sharp, sharp. Can't wait, but I guess I'll have to. I also have the Oly and Panasonic glass but it's gathering dust now. Jim Laird On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Henning Wulff <henningw at archiphoto.com> wrote: > I haven't really looked for it, so haven't seen it. I imagine Olympus will > have a firmware fix for it, as it definitely seems a firmware problem. > > It supposedly only happens in really high ISO situations, and before it > gets to that I tend to change the 20 for the Voigtlander 25 to gain > another stop and a half. That one doesn't have the problem, as there are > no electronics in the lens. BTW, manual focus, with magnification and IBIS > on, is very smooth and easy. I've tried the Voigtlander in very low light, > as well as the 280/4 Telyt with 1.4x converter and some other lenses and > achieved very good results. > > On 2012-06-16, at 1:28 PM, James Laird wrote: > >> Henning, >> >> What about this banding problem the OM-D has at high ISOs with the >> Panasonic 20mm 1.7? >> <http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/06/12/Olympus-acknowledges-OM-D-E-M5-banding-with-panasonic-20mm-f1-7-lens> >> Of course I realize with the speed of the 20 you would rarely need to >> use high ISO settings. Have you experienced it? It would be a definite >> problem for me as I love my 20 1.7. >> >> Jim Laird >> >> On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Henning Wulff <henningw at >> archiphoto.com> wrote: >>> I just got an OM-D. I've not had it long, but it looks good. In any >>> case, I've handled but am not interested in the Fuji, because I have an >>> M9 and focussing and shooting with the M9 is a lot easier and pleasanter >>> for me. Of course, if I had a Fuji I'm sure I'd start to get used to it >>> but I can't say I'm delighted with the viewfinder/focussing setup. Also, >>> the range of lenses available is not really going to make me happy at >>> this point. I know that many more are supposed to come, but..... >>> >>> I've had m43 for a while, and the OM-D definitely has the best image >>> quality. Is it up to the Fuji? Not quite. Is the Fuji's quality up to >>> FF, as they advertised? Not quite. It's still a matter of size, and FF >>> trumps APS-C trumps m43. What is amazing about the OM-D is the dynamic >>> range which is greater than that of almost all APS-C cameras, and the >>> fact that the files are more forgiving than those of the Panasonics and >>> earlier Olympuses. With the OM-D, I also have as backups the Panasonics. >>> >>> As for high ISO quality, the Fuji has about a stop on the OM-D, but then >>> I have faster lenses for the OM-D than Fuji has available at present for >>> the most and the OM-D has first class stabilization. For my purposes the >>> OM-D wins in the low light area, and especially with the lenses I have >>> vs. those I could get for the Fuji. Lens quality for the m43 format is >>> at least up to the level of the Fuji's, which are certainly very good. >>> >>> As for colour accuracy, Olympus has been at the very pinnacle of colour >>> accuracy for a long time, with their larger 4/3 cameras as well as their >>> m43 offerings. In any case, I profile all my cameras so it becomes a >>> non-issue. Processing for the web by various people is definitely an >>> issue, and making comparisons on the web for colour is not going to >>> actually get you anywhere. Do your own tests. Or profile everything; >>> that's the only answer in the end. >>> >>> Bokeh is of course rather subjective, but that quality is in fact rather >>> similar between the Fuji lenses and the majority of the m43 prime lenses >>> I have (or tried). It seems a lot of companies are now paying attention >>> to this. >>> >>> Resolution/detail differences can be seen on the web at 100% if things >>> are processed optimally. The Fuji should have a slight advantage here, >>> nearly to the extent of the difference of a 13x19 print compared with an >>> 11x17 print. I haven't made this comparison, nor am I likely to, but to >>> this point some 13x19 OM-D prints I've seen look fine. I'm unlikely to >>> print larger than 11x14 myself, so I would have a little room for >>> cropping. If I really intend to print larger, I'll use a larger sensor >>> or stitch >>> >>> Summarized, my opinion is this: If you don't have m43 or an M9 and would >>> like something 'M-like', have a look at the Fuji and see if you can get >>> along with it. It's no M9, both in a good and bad sense, just different >>> enough so that it really should be judged on its own. >>> >>> If you have any m43 items or would like immediate access to a fairly >>> well developed system, don't hesitate about the OM-D. The issues you >>> raised aren't real issues; only with respect to resolution can Fuji be >>> said to have an advantage, and it's not really that big a one. Handling, >>> features, size, price, how it fits in with your other cameras and a lot >>> of other things are a log bigger factors. >>> >>> Finally, get the one you like! and go our and shoot! >>> >>> Henning >>> >>> >>> On 2012-06-16, at 4:35 AM, Douglas Nygren wrote: >>> >>>> I've been studying the picture posted on the web and the lug taken with >>>> the Fuji Xpro and comparing them with others taken with the new Olympus >>>> OMD. >>>> The Fuji looks better. The colors look better, the bokeh looks better, >>>> the images are sharper. >>>> What have you all noted, if you have compared the two? >>>> Gru?--Doug >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>> >>> >>> Henning Wulff >>> henningw at archiphoto.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > > Henning Wulff > henningw at archiphoto.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information