Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/06/16
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]It would be wonderful to have a brick and mortar entity where one could take their defective camera and actually not be blown off completely. While it's possible (perhaps probable) that they will have a security guard escort you out, at least there would be human interaction of some sort. I could even be persuaded to buy an M?.what number are they up to now? Regards, Jeffery _________________ Jeffery Smith Irish Channel, New Orleans, LA www.400tx.com On Jun 16, 2012, at 7:15 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote: > Some people appreciate having and using the best and with finance it anyway > they can. > Maybe not super rich you can take a long time to pay off a Mercedes. And > you can drive one for a long time. > There are people apparently such as yourself who seem to always just want > to > spend less finding something a little similar and cheaper. > A Chevy will also get you to the supermarket. > For every premium product there is a mid price option and often a low price > option. All kinds of options. Pick your price point. A Chevy cost what a > Chevy cost; not what a Mercedes cost and for real logical reasons. > Anybody with an interest in Leica knows that its been a premium product for > a long long time. You don't save money getting one. > Leica is not here to make you happy. > We'd love it if we could have a new M10 for 3 grand. If an X2 cost 80o > bucks. I'd be happy. Leica would be broke. > I think Leica needs to stay happy doing what its been doing for a long long > time. Making a second to none premium product in smaller amounts at a > premium price. I does do a thing with Panasonic putting their name on it > and > selling them at much cheaper prices than an M. > > > > - - from my iRabs. > Mark Rabiner > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/ > > >> From: Douglas Nygren <douglasnygren at yahoo.com> >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 16:54:35 -0700 (PDT) >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Why Leica is opening up so many stores >> >> Leica thinks it can be like Apple and have stand alone stores. >> Maybe it can, but they Leica isn't Apple. Apple had a big followingbefore >> it >> started to run its own stores. >> While Leica may have lost dealers, it's hard to imagine a dealer buying >> into >> the Leica system. What does that cost, half a million?Is there that much >> profit in new cameras? No. The win is in sellingused Leica gear.Dealers >> traditionally carry a broader range of product than just one line.In New >> York, >> a dealer may be able to make it with one line of cameras,namely Leica. >> But can >> a dealer in Cincinnati make it that way? >> Given the giant leap in Leica prices, how many of us are going to buy new >> Leica gear? That means Leica is going to have to develop a newmarket--one >> beyond the collectors who have one of everything Leica foreach of their >> homes. >> People like us, I assume, will be lured away by camera manufacturerswho >> produce a great product in range finder form. Think Fuji. Think the xpro >> 2. >> As I've written here before, as Leica increaes its prices, it opens >> itself up >> to be undersold: Fuji, Olympus, Sony come to mind. >> Then again, maybe Leica isn't thinking long-term. Maybe it's just thinking >> American, which is to say short-term. Drive up the prices, increase profit >> margins, look good on paper, make an IOP killings and cash in. >> Leica might reply: howwash. We sell everything we make in a bad economy. >> Think >> what it will be like, wenn alles wieder in Butter ist, when everything is >> good >> again. They may have a point. >> I'd feel better about their future if lurking in the wings was an >> autofocus M >> with movie capability. Who know, maybe there is. Who knows, maybe they >> will >> introduce a mini M to sell to consumers the way Canon and Nikon does. >> They may >> have "miracle" products in the pipeline, but given their history of >> trailing >> the market, this may be more than a fantasy. >> For me, Leica is bcoming less interesting while Fuji is becoming more >> interesting. The new Nikon catches my eye as does the Canon 5D Mark III >> with >> its high ISOs and silent mode. As it is, the M9 sounds noisy to me like >> the >> SLRs of yore. >> It just seems to me Leica is no longer looking to photographers to buy its >> product. It is becoming a fashion statement. Pity is how many fashionistas >> will appreciate what fine glass they posses. >> MFG-Doug >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information