Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/06/14
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]On Jun 13, 2012, at 6:17 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj wrote: > Well, Amateur Photographer magazine did a comparitive review of the Leica > M9, Fuji X-Pro 1 and the Sony Nex 7 in their May 26th issue, in case > someone is interested. yes, haven't seen it...results? Steve > Cheers > Jayanand > > Sent from my iPad > > On 14-Jun-2012, at 1:52 AM, "John McMaster" <john at chiaroscuro.co.nz> > wrote: > >> Sean Reid (pay-for site) compared X-100, X-Pro1, M9 and MM with similar >> treatment. >> >> john >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> One camera system can be judged as nosier than anther but that's just how >> the image was handled. One can be temped to over sharpen just as one can >> be >> temped to anti noise and sometimes get away with it. >> But in this case we're looking at full rez file so we can see easier whats >> been done with it. And in this case too much. Was it Fuji that did it not >> the photographer? So this was a jpeg? In the interface there was no menu >> which said how much sharpening? I bet there was. And I bet it was turned >> on >> way too high. It would need perhaps to be set to "low" or "off". >> And sharpen to taste later. >> >> Its just darned hard to judge a camera systems sharpness and noise >> because a >> tasteful amount is put into the final image by the photographer. And that >> taste can vary. >> >> - - from my iRabs. >> Mark Rabiner >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/ >> >> >>> >>> That is pretty much how Sean Reid analysed it, Fuji are dropping a lot >>> of detail information to reduce noise at high ASA. >>> >>> john >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> >>> To me it looks anti noised a bit too much. In other worlds it would >>> look better noisier. To me its the analog equivalent of putting tissue >>> or dirty saran wrap in front of an enlarging lens. You just don't ever >>> want to do that. You want to see the real grain which is there becuae >>> out of that grain comes the image. Less grain less information which >>> is there; we are just now allowed to see it. >>> In digital its not quite the same. We can anti noise the noise not >>> grain just a tad to take some of the edgy sandpaper ness off until it >>> gets to be too much and we are cut off from the information we should >>> be seeing in the image. And that in terms of photography from both the >>> craft and art sake: a big no no. >>> It's human nature to want to see all the detail that was there in the >>> original file rather than to have it smoothed over on us into jelly >>> bean sauce. >>> Odds are we'd not be viewing the image at one to one anyway. >>> >>> - - from my iRabs. >>> Mark Rabiner >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/ >>> >>> >>>> From: Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at me.com> >>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 05:51:03 +0100 >>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica M lenses on the Fuji X-Pro 1 >>>> >>>> Richard >>>> >>>> I have uploaded a 6400iso image at >>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gwpics/1X--1075.jpg.html. It is at >>>> full resolution. It is a little more noisy than I would normally >>>> anticipate but I suspect that this is due to the heavy red lighting >>>> chosen by the lighting engineer for this particular gig. All >>>> information is in the usual place in the gallery. >>>> >>>> Gerry >>> >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information