Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/06/13

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Subject: [Leica] Leica M Monochrom
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 23:03:42 -0400

I think it makes perfect sense for optics to be picking up way over 50
linepairs/mm even if the sensor on the M9 only goes  to 73 linepairs/mm.
Its called over sampling
In music recording classical music is often recorded at 20 bit while a CD
can only play I think 16 bit. The CD cant simply contain all that the
microphone is picking up.
yet its known to be well worth it.  People pay another dollar or so for 20
bit recordings there's a gold thing usually in the top right hand corner of
the CD.
Same with camera optics being better than film or sensors. It's ok for
things to be down sampled. Its not a waste. Its not a negative. And its
often a positive.
There is also the aspect that sensors in time keep getting better and
better. We don't know yet what the M10 will be able to resolve.
Or the M11.
Or the M12.

On the other hand why pay thousands for gear which allows you to do critical
work if you're never going to ever do critical work?
A scan I put up on the LUG which is 800 by 1200 pixels is a way over average
scan to see I think on the LUG gallery and on the internet in general.

Screen size: They make for 11 x 16 inches on a 72 pix per inch screen.

A Print: But its only on one of my 240 pix per inch matt prints a measly
3.33 x 5 inch inch image.

So that's not critical work. Nor would one which makes a 4x6 " jumbo
Walgreens snapshot. We'd hope for an 8x10 inch or 11x14. Maybe even a 16x20
to call it critical work. Typical portfolio sizes for photographers and
typical print sizes on the gallery walls as well. And typical for what you'd
give a portrait client. So your gear would need to be good enough to do
these and do them well.
And the newest cutting edge optics from Leica at these sizes are going to
give your work an evident edge.
I should say that photographers, commercial ones for sure often use tripods
and studio strobes. And slow film or nowadays slow iso settings.

The demand of websites and web galleries are very low as they are for images
a few hundred pixels across. And those could all be done on cell phone
cameras for all anyone would no or care.

And I think people who think they're never going to do critical work under
estimate themselves often. Because if you plan your workflo around making
5x7's sure as hell someone's going want a row of 8x10's of yours on their
wall and not all your images are going to maybe look so great at that size.


- - from my iRabs.
Mark Rabiner
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/


> From: John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 02:09:10 +0000
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica M Monochrom
> 
> Jono Slack's was with present(ish) glass - 50mm Summilux asph, 75mm
> APO-Summicron and 90mm Elmarit-M.
> 
> A test to see at what magnification the 50mm APO-Summicron asph betters the
> Summilux asph would be useful, if little difference in 16" x 24" what is 
> the
> need?
> 
> Puts has just added to his blog
> http://www.imx.nl/photo/optics/styled-5/chromatic.html
> 
> john
> ________________________________________
> 
> 
> Everyone is using the new 50.  I wonder how it performs with the other
> present day and past Leica glass.
> 
> Aram
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
>> For those interested. Of course, Forbes Magazine likes it (-:
>> 
>> As for me, I am waiting for someone who takes part in Print Exchanges to
>> buy it, so I can see a print of a photo taken with it!
>> 
>> www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-news/2012/05/leica-m-monochrom-links/
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Jayanand
>> 
>> 
> 
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