Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/06/13
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]On Jun 13, 2012, at 1:25 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote: > Yes its really helpful to be judging an image in its original size like > this > rather than a reduced version which is not going to care if its was shot > with a 100 or 1000 dollar lens or camera system. > My default in my galleries and in much other stuff I've done is 1200 pixels > on the large side. Way smaller than this. > I wait till its reduced to its final size before I unsharp mask or go into > areas selectively and anti noise. > I don't feel bad about 1200px across I think its way bigger than the > average > stuff you see. But way to small to know anything conclusively about the > image and camera and lens. it must have been hard for you to shoot for the newspaper.... > > > - - from my iRabs. > Mark Rabiner > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/ > > >> From: "B. D. Colen" <bd at bdcolenphoto.com> >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 20:09:40 +0000 >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica M lenses on the Fuji X-Pro 1 >> >> 1. We rarely see images 1 to 1 >> 2. The enlarger comparison is pretty much irrelevant as the idea of >> shooting a >> 6400 and getting vaguely useable images was simply not an issue. Remember >> Kodak Recording film? 3200 ASA? The images looked like pictures created >> with >> pebbles on a beach. ;-) >> Typed with big fingers on tiny keys >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >> Sender: lug-bounces+bd=bdcolenphoto.com at leica-users.org >> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 16:05:45 >> To: Leica Users Group<lug at leica-users.org> >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica M lenses on the Fuji X-Pro 1 >> >> To me it looks anti noised a bit too much. In other worlds it would look >> better noisier. To me its the analog equivalent of putting tissue or dirty >> saran wrap in front of an enlarging lens. You just don't ever want to do >> that. You want to see the real grain which is there becuae out of that >> grain >> comes the image. Less grain less information which is there; we are just >> now >> allowed to see it. >> In digital its not quite the same. We can anti noise the noise not grain >> just a tad to take some of the edgy sandpaper ness off until it gets to be >> too much and we are cut off from the information we should be seeing in >> the >> image. And that in terms of photography from both the craft and art sake: >> a >> big no no. >> It's human nature to want to see all the detail that was there in the >> original file rather than to have it smoothed over on us into jelly bean >> sauce. >> Odds are we'd not be viewing the image at one to one anyway. >> >> - - from my iRabs. >> Mark Rabiner >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/ >> >> >>> From: Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at me.com> >>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 05:51:03 +0100 >>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica M lenses on the Fuji X-Pro 1 >>> >>> Richard >>> >>> I have uploaded a 6400iso image at >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gwpics/1X--1075.jpg.html. It is at full >>> resolution. It is a little more noisy than I would normally anticipate >>> but I >>> suspect that this is due to the heavy red lighting chosen by the lighting >>> engineer for this particular gig. All information is in the usual place >>> in >>> the >>> gallery. >>> >>> Gerry >>> >>> Gerry Walden >>> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 or >>> +44 (0)797 287 7932 >>> www.gwpics.com >>> >>> On 12 Jun 2012, at 22:09, Richard Man wrote: >>> >>>> BD or any of you X-Pro users - how well do the AF work in low light? >>>> e.g. >>>> one that would require ISO 2500 and F2 1/30, i.e. EV2? >>>> >>>> I won't be getting the X-Pro1, but if my eyes continue its trajectory, I >>>> may have to get an X-Pro-2 or X-Pro-3. >>>> >>>> Or may be an E-M7... >>>> >>>> I need very clean ISO3200.... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 1:58 PM, B. D. Colen <bd at bdcolenphoto.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> While there is no question modern Leica glass is unparalleled, I'd say, >>>>> having used the Leica glass on film, the lenses for the Fuji Xpro1 are >>>>> damn >>>>> good. Keep in mind that Fuji made the Xpan, made at least one other >>>>> Hassie, >>>>> and I seem to remember a number of Luggers raving about the 'Texas >>>>> Leicas' >>>>> Fuji produced. The Xpro1 is a quirky little beast, but I think the >>>>> biggest >>>>> the biggest complaint one reads - that the autofocus is too slow, comes >>>>> from people who have never shot with a manual focus camera, much less a >>>>> rangefinder, and judge everything by the likes of a Nikon D4. If you're >>>>> used to an M9, an M3, or, for that matter, a IIIF, you'll think the >>>>> autofocus is more than fast and accurate enough. >>>>> Typed with big fingers on tiny keys >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: David Keenan <ausdlk at gmail.com> >>>>> Sender: lug-bounces+bd=bdcolenphoto.com at leica-users.org >>>>> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 15:16:40 >>>>> To: <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica M lenses on the Fuji X-Pro 1 >>>>> >>>>> Rod -- >>>>> >>>>> Give up the idea of using M lenses on this camera and buy it only for >>>>> the >>>>> merits of the AF Fuji lenses. >>>>> >>>>> If you don't see these merits and you insist on manual focusing (even >>>>> with >>>>> the Fuji adapter), I can almost guarantee disappointment and/or lots of >>>>> out-of-focus pictures. >>>>> . >>>>> Dave. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> See my 2012 Picture A Week (PAW) Gallery >>>>> <http://www.dlkphotography.com/paw>originally begun in 2007. >>>>> Please join my photography mailing >>>>> list< >>>>> > http://dlkphotography.us2.list-manage2.com/subscribe?u=3d9dfbb5b18c4817532a>>>> > 3 >>>>> 7b90&id=4dd441d8fe >>>>>> >>>>> . >>>>> Become a collector. Purchase selected prints here >>>>> <http://bit.ly/JHfpMb>. >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information