Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/05/30
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Tina I don't believe that you and I and others on the LUG really know what it really means to be shooting with a CCD (charge coupled device) or a CMOS (complementary metal oxide semiconductor) image sensor unless we happen to be electronic computer engineers which few of us are. I'm just not buying it the people preferring the look of one over the other. Its the emperors new clothes. We pretend we are seeing things we really can't. All we really know is how it effects our shooting. We are living in a world in which we are competing against photographers who can shoot at 5 EV's higher then we so far can. (M9 shooters vs. Canon/Nikon DSLR shooters) They are getting depth of friend and capturing action in the dark; While we are shooting wide open and hoping nobody moves. I think the M9 shooters who are able to upgrade to the new M9 Polychrome will be happy as clams. There is no downside. The upgrade will for sure be UP. We need to trust Leica for having some real intelligence and integrity. If they find a different nature of image sensor to be preferable then they proably know what they are talking about. They are in the camera business As are the 99.99% of photographers who are shooting the CMOS sensors as we speak. Hitting deadlines. ...Seeing their results on the web and printed media around the world. http://www.teledynedalsa.com/corp/markets/ccd_vs_cmos.aspx - - from my iRabs. Mark Rabiner > From: Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 17:22:35 -0400 > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Endgadget on the MM > > I am one. I want to be able to take B&W photos with my Leica digital > camera that equal those I shot with B&W film. The M9 is wonderful, but the > high ISOs leave a lot to be desired. I could push TMax 400 to 800 or even > use TMax 3200 and still get acceptable negatives. I can't get acceptable > photos from the M9 at 3200 ISO. It's marginal at 800. If the Leica MM > delivers B&W photos that have shadow detail without excessive noise at 3200 > or even 1600, it will be well worth the price to me. I'm looking forward > to more dynamic range and lots of fine detail at higher ISOs. The DNGs > posted show this is possible with the MM. > > I don't want a CMOS sensor. I've already compared the two and much prefer > what I get from CCD. Why would I want anything that is already available > with the Canon I have and hate? > > Tina > > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> > wrote: > >> What's on my mind is the people who would buy the Leica M9 Monochrom would >> be who? >> What's on my mind is the state of black and white image making after a >> decade of people shooting digital many of them like myself who were black >> and white specialists in film didn't feel the urge to specialize in black >> and white in digital. >> >> With Erwin mentioning stuff like the new sensor on the M9 will be CMOS it >> appears that the way long overdue sensor for the M9 is not a permeant >> invisible dream.: >> "This intention has been stated several times by high-ranking Leica >> officials and during the Berlin interview sessions Mr. Kaufmann made >> hardly >> disguised remarks in this direction." >> >> So a new sensor competitive with the best from Canon and Nikon is not a >> fig >> Newton of someone else's imagination. >> Its history which just hasn't gotten around to happening yet. >> >> You can have that kind of power ahead of time if you can get an M9 >> Monochrom. >> And feel what its like to shoot like you did in the 1990's. >> When filters meant something. >> If I was a few notches higher in the dead presidents deparment I'd >> certainly >> get one. >> But if I had the cash in pocket I'd let it sit and fester till the M9 goes >> CMOS. >> >> >> >> - - from my iRabs. >> Mark Rabiner >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/ >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> > > > -- > Tina Manley, ASMP > www.tinamanley.com > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information