Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/05/28
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Almost any filter you use is bad for people. People use yellow they think they're ok. But all the people in their shots look pasty. Kind of like they're from the planet Saturn. The extreme example is a red filter which makes lips go white as well as cheeks. You'll for sure look like a creature from a Star Trek Deep Space Nine, or possibly Voyager. A green filter though does the opposite and having darker lips and cheeks works well on most people. Instead of a detriment its a benefit. The M9 mono's sensor and the hardware behind it has a slant toward green Erwin mentioned. http://www.imx.nl/photo/page152/page152.html Most B&W films were not a panchromatic as they were made out ot be even at the end and benefited from the use of a light green or yellow green filter. Also these filters which don't turn people into extraterrestrials. Also its the wavelength which is the sharpest. Closest together. Me I like the idea of cutting out the nasty red wavelengths, magenta and violet wavelengths before they even hit my camera lens. http://www.rfcafe.com/references/general/images/visible_light_wheel.gif That way the lens has that just much to not have to worry about. And those are the light wavelengths which are the furthest apart. I'll pass on them thank you. A green or yellow green or dark green filters do not do people harm. And also make for great landscapes as the skies will show full detail not washing out and the foliage will be lightened a bit which in most cases works well for it. As it can be otherwise be rendered un naturally dark. Its interesting that to get the most separation out of skies its well known you use a red filter. Couple it with a polarizer and wow! But the opposite of red is green and a green filter also does well with skies. Kind of like a super uv filter. Cuts through the haze and makes sure that the little wispy clouds you see also come through in the final image. You'd think a UV filter would do that. They don't. Use as least a yellow. Dark yellow even. Driving through the great plains in May 1999 doing my Lewis and Clark Project I had a red filter on my Leica Apo-Telyt-M and a green filter on my 90mm Elmarit-M. I'd go back and forth between those lenes. Everything was "way out there". - - from my iRabs. Mark Rabiner http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/ > From: Bob Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 11:20:03 -0700 > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Another MM Write up > > For non-landscapes I agree. However, for landscapes it can be invaluable. > Ansel's image of Half Dome was made dramatic with a red. It was the image > that > turned the light on for him regarding his zone system. > Or so the story goes. At any rate red, green and orange filters are > indispensable for BW landscapes IMO. > Bob > Bob Adler > www.rgaphoto.com > Sirisly > > On May 28, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> wrote: > >> I almost never used filters for B&W film - only a few times experimenting >> with landscapes and clouds. I can't imagine that I would need to use >> filters with the MM when I didn't use them with film. Right? >> >> Tina >> >> On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 12:52 PM, James Laird <digiratidoc at gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Ric, >>> >>> No, maybe I didn't make myself clear enough. I know the sensor is not >>> color sensitive but if the images can be modified after the fact in >>> Silver Efex Pro 2 why can't the Leica engineers modify the software to >>> do the same thing? In camera, like a slew of point-and-shoot cameras >>> do already, and give us a JPEG with the modified image. Seems like a >>> no-brainer to me, but then I guess they'd lose all that profit from >>> filter sales. I just don't think I'd want to slap ANY filter in front >>> of that kit, Leica-branded or no. Just MHO. >>> >>> Jim Laird >>> >>> On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Ric Carter <ricc at embarqmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> but, it's not POSSIBLE if the sensor is NOT color sensitive >>>> >>>> ric >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 28, 2012, at 10:57 AM, James Laird wrote: >>>> >>>>> Jayanand, >>>>> >>>>> That's true but it sure would be nice to have that ability in camera >>>>> so you could mimic say a yellow filter to get a JPEG for reference >>>>> purposes or a quick print or web pic. Seems like an $8000 camera >>>>> SHOULD be able to do that, but maybe its just wishful thinking on my >>>>> part. >>>>> >>>>> Jim Laird >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Tina Manley, ASMP >> www.tinamanley.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information