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Subject: [Leica] working & earning & lifetsyle
From: robertmeier at usjet.net (Robert Meier)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 15:53:31 -0500 (CDT)
References: <CBDD7EDF.14BF7%chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com>

It's a popular, but mistaken, notion that we don't make things any more.  
While manufacturing is only 10% of our economy, we are the third largest 
exporter, just behind Germany.


On May 19, 2012, at 3:49 PM, Chris Crawford wrote:

> Nothing wrong with that. Its why China's GDP is growing too. I'm
> constantly amazed that Americans are as stupid as we are about economics.
> We've let ourselves be convinced by idiot politicians and greedy
> businessmen that a country can stay rich without actually making anything.
> Well, we make very little now, and we're falling into poverty, while
> Germany is still prosperous and China is becoming prosperous. What do
> Germany and China do? They MAKE THINGS. They don't just push paper.
> 
> -- 
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> On 5/19/12 4:28 PM, "Robert Meier" <robertmeier at usjet.net> wrote:
> 
>> Yes, their GDP is growing because they are selling all their products to
>> the other euro countries.
>> 
>> 
>> On May 19, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Robert Meier wrote:
>> 
>>> Did you mean a 'tectonic shift'?
>>> 
>>> On May 19, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Richard Man wrote:
>>> 
>>>> As someone who grew up in the government projects in Hong Kong, then
>>>> "made
>>>> it" and bought a house in Palo Alto, but now hit with the financial
>>>> fallout, plus having one kid in college and one kid entering college
>>>> in a
>>>> year or so, I can fully understand Philip and Chris' plight. Did I
>>>> work my
>>>> arse off to get to where I was? Yes. Do I see the same problems that
>>>> they
>>>> allude to? Yes.
>>>> 
>>>> What I see is a system increasingly deck against the Little Guys, but
>>>> my
>>>> rant is only suitable for the Forum. Yes, the opportunities are still
>>>> out
>>>> there - for my children's sake, I sure hope that it is true. But one
>>>> should
>>>> not think that the situation is the same as even 5 years ago. Times
>>>> have
>>>> changed. A nothing 3 bedroom house in Vancouver can fetch over 1.3
>>>> million
>>>> dollars, mostly because of all the rich money from China. How would you
>>>> like to be growing up in Vancouver and then knowing that there is no
>>>> way
>>>> you can stay there? Same thing is happening in the Silicon Valley (and
>>>> have
>>>> been happening since I moved here ~20 years ago). We are seeing a
>>>> Teutonic
>>>> shift, just that it's not affecting people in "other countries," but
>>>> right
>>>> here in USA, and not limited to a particular race or geographic
>>>> regions.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
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