Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/04/10
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Marty On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote: > Should I list all my Leica lenses and find out from the eggspurts (who > don't own them) just how shitty they are? > > > > On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 7:56 PM, Dante Stella <dstella1 at > ameritech.net>wrote: > >> The 28mm Elmarit ASPH is challenged in the corners because it is designed >> to be a cheap (orig $1,600) compact lens, no? >> >> Dante >> >> On Apr 10, 2012, at 19:03, Marty Deveney <benedenia at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > The 28 Elmarit 2.8 ASPH appeared to be designed for the M8 not the >> > Summicron - its performance drops in the corners when used wide open >> > on a 24x36mm frame as you can see on the MTF chart linked from here: >> > http://us.leica-camera.com/photography/m_system/lenses/2194.html. ?The >> > 28 Summicron is sharp right out to the corners, and has a very flat >> > field. ?H. Ball Arche, who used to use a 28 a lot and posted here >> > prolifically, didn't like the flat field because it made heads in the >> > corners of the frame look like footballs - he preferred the C-V 28/1.9 >> > which had greater barrel distortion and a less flat field, but less >> > apparent distortion of things like heads in the corners. ?A nice >> > display of the compromises optical design includes. >> > >> > The 35 Summicron ASPH was designed during the film era and in some >> > ways doesn't perform as well as the 35 Summilux ASPH II with the >> > floating element, but it's still pretty formidable. ?On the M8 I >> > prefer a 28 to a 35, but I think generally I prefer a 28 overall, even >> > if it is the Nikkor 28mm f1.4 which is actually a ~31mm lens. ?After >> > Leica revises the 50 Summicron (now the oldest lens in the M line up >> > and the only Summicron without aspherical element(s)) the 35 and 90 >> > ASPH Summicrons are probably next, because they are the oldest. >> > >> > Summicron 28 (borrowed, and my, look at that magenta!): >> > >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/freakscene/Freakscene_001/L1002579.jpg.html >> > Nikkor 28: >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/freakscene/Tsukiji/File0825.jpg.html >> > >> > Marty >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 6:40 AM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz> >> wrote: >> >> Where are you coming from Mark? >> >> Where has it been said that they are lowering quality?? >> >> Where is it said that they designed an M lens for smaller than 24mm x >> 36mm??? >> >> >> >> I am on record here in saying how good the 28mm Summicron is..... >> >> >> >> All I am saying, and this backed up by users on this list, is that a >> 28mm lens becomes the equivalent of a 35mm on the M8 and that is a more >> used focal length than 28mm is for FF. >> >> >> >> Please read (and understand) what is being said rather than making >> things up. >> >> >> >> john >> >> ________________________________________ >> >> >> >> >> >> It strike me as phantasmagorical baloney that Leica lowered its >> standards on >> >> edge quality to make the compact Leica 35mm f/2 SUMMICRON-M ASPH ideal >> for >> >> the M8 making it less ideal for the M9. By the way the lens is now >> >> being >> >> sold new for just over four grand $. >> >> I don't think Leica has ever made a lens for a crop camera and has >> stated >> >> over and over any lens it ever makes will be fully usable on a film M. >> >> I don't t think anything is going to get it to settle for less than >> >> excellent edge quality for its M glass going straight out to a 43.3mm >> image >> >> crop circle.... >> >> The 28 Summicron is ?a gem and at the top of my list for my next Leica >> lens. >> >> This lowering of quality thing is a LUG myth which I don't think we're >> going >> >> to find documented elsewise. >> >> >> >> >> >> - - from my iRabs. >> >> Mark Rabiner >> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/ >> >> >> >> >> >>> From: John McMaster <john at chiaroscuro.co.nz> >> >>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> >>> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 08:47:45 +1200 >> >>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] The world is awash with M9....... >> >>> >> >>> That is more of an M8 staple rather than the 35mm/50mm of the M9..... >> >>> >> >>> john >> >>> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> >> >>> I have seen more 28 Summicron for sale in the last month than last 2 >> years. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Leica Users Group. >> >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Leica Users Group. >> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > > > -- > Regards, > > Sonny > http://sonc.com/look/ > http://sonc-hegr.tumblr.com/ > Natchitoches, Louisiana > > USA > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information