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Subject: [Leica] S2 vs. 645D sensor
From: robertmeier at usjet.net (Robert Meier)
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 15:40:30 -0500 (CDT)
References: <CB8914E8.1BB19%mark@rabinergroup.com>

Delta 3200 is $5.29 a roll at B&H:  T-Max 400 is $4.59.


On Mar 16, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:

> Well I can and I have.
> Delta 3200 the results were not that good and it cost a whole lot more than
> the 400 films. I didn't use it for that reason and I knew other
> photographers who also didn't use it for that reason.
> When it says 3200 on the box you'd expect at least 1600 like the Kodak.
> 
> -- 
> Mark R.
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/
> 
> 
>> From: Robert Meier <robertmeier at usjet.net>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:11:22 -0500 (CDT)
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] S2 vs. 645D sensor
>> 
>> I shoot it at 1200 and use T-Max Developer and get excellent results.
>> 
>> You can't complain that there is no 120 film faster than 400 and then 
>> dismiss
>> the one there is because it's only one stop faster.
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 16, 2012, at 9:40 AM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>> 
>>> Reads like you're saying that to achieve higher ISO's you'd need CMOS.
>>> If that's true than great.
>>> I do think that the combined knowledge of everyone on the lug knows about
>>> sensor design and research is what the people who learn this stuff in 
>>> school
>>> learn in the first week of school.
>>> 
>>> I'm not underestimating the level or intensity of the R&D which is going 
>>> on
>>> in the sensor field now. Because there's money in it. Its a huge item in
>>> today's consumer world. And its digital. Which means "maybe in ten  
>>> years"
>>> then its the day after tomorrow. That's the rule.
>>> Its just not going to happen tomorrow.
>>> The day AFTER tomorrow.
>>> I can wait that long. Gives me time to fill my piggy bank.
>>> 
>>> In five years I predict will be for sure getting full frame quality with 
>>> 1.5
>>> sized sensors and those sized sensors will not go away.
>>> 
>>> And I predict medium format will continue to develop exp0ditiously.
>>> That's not a spelling error. It a custom word hand crafted to fit the
>>> situation. 
>>> 
>>> Its how when you see how expeditiously thing have gotten when you go to 
>>> the
>>> Expo.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Mark R.
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> From: Lottermoser George <imagist3 at mac.com>
>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 08:44:10 -0500
>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] S2 vs. 645D sensor
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 16, 2012, at 8:32 AM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> As the sensors get better the use of the camera will expand to more 
>>>>> street
>>>>> photography as you'll get higher ISO's.
>>>> 
>>>> I see no indications of "medium format" sensors going Cmos
>>>> and
>>>> I see no indications of CCD sensors going super high ISO/ASA
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> George Lottermoser
>>>> george at imagist.com
>>>> http://www.imagist.com
>>>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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