Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/03/08
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Ah, yes? Split grade printing! I have bought a 4x5 coldlight splitgrade print head last year. Haven't had time to experiment with it too much. I noticed that the setup was pretty good at yielding a regular, non-refined print right after mesuring all the highlight & shadow areas. A bit too light to my taste, but I'll manage that. Now i have to get used to the dodging and burning "new style" (i.e. in two channels) - I'll do that right after I set up my darkroom? I still have a few boxes to unpack after the move and next exhibition is not before september. All the best from Paris! Tarek ------------------------------------------------- Tarek Charara <http://www.tarekcharara.com> NO ARCHIVE Le 8 mars 2012 ? 11:19, Mark Rabiner a ?crit : > For me what I'd done last time in a print like years before seemed to come > back to me. I get a feeling many of my dodges and burns were exactly like > I'd done the decade before. Ones hands have memory. Like playing the guitar > or piano. > But I'm a much much better printer now than I was a decade before. > And I probably will make a much better print than I'd made various times > before. So The idea of starting from scratch from a neg and printing it as > if I've never printed it before has often been an exciting game plan. > > Also my last ten years of printing I used the two exposure split printing > method one exposure with the blue high contrast light for the blacks and > the > other exposure with the green low contrast lights light. (then burning with > one of the other or a mix) > This entire new approach to printing made me rethink the balance of my > entire body of work which was mostly black and white and always they'd come > out way better than before. > I needed that two color thing right then because I was getting a bit > frustrated with the limitations of darkroom printing. You could go through > many sheets of paper and still not really nail it. Better luck next time > you'd think. > > -- > Mark R. > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/ > > >> From: Tarek Charara <tcharara at mac.com> >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 09:55:40 +0100 >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Magnum & the Dying Art of Darkroom Printing >> >> So? I like achieving similar results for a particular print and so I do >> note >> my dodging and burning on my final test prints. I would go crazy if I >> didn't?Specially when doing limited edition prints and don't do the whole >> batch at the same time. And IF I change papers, I usually start with the >> results I noted and go from there. If I want to achieve a different >> interpretation, I also start from that particular annotated print and try >> new >> stuff? It's not perfect, but sure is better than re-inventing the wheel >> every >> time. And ymmv? >> >> And as to time spent in the darkroom? 35 years here. But I must be a bit >> younger? ;) >> >> All the best from Paris! >> >> Tarek >> >> ------------------------------------------------- >> Tarek Charara >> <http://www.tarekcharara.com> >> >> NO ARCHIVE >> >> >> >> >> Le 8 mars 2012 ? 09:43, Mark Rabiner a ?crit : >> >>> Its just that I've over 4 decades printed and half my friends did the >>> same. >>> As in printed the same neg on different papers different times. Different >>> sizes for different shows or clients. RC and or Fiber. C print or >>> Cibachrome. And had our assistants do It and or a custom printer do it. >>> Its scintillating horsepucky. >>> >>> -- >>> Mark R. >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/ >>> >>> >>>> From: Tarek Charara <tcharara at mac.com> >>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 09:12:33 +0100 >>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Magnum & the Dying Art of Darkroom Printing >>>> >>>> You'd have to make those note at some final stage so that you don't >>>> start >>>> the >>>> whole trial and error process all over again. years later when you need >>>> to >>>> print again. >>>> >>>> All the best from Paris! >>>> >>>> Tarek >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------- >>>> Tarek Charara >>>> <http://www.tarekcharara.com> >>>> >>>> NO ARCHIVE >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Le 8 mars 2012 ? 06:06, Mark Rabiner a ?crit : >>>> >>>>> I cant figure out if this is an example of a kind of obsesive >>>>> compulsive >>>>> psychosis or an attempt at humor. There is also a famous one of a head >>>>> from >>>>> Avedon. An image marked up way past any reason or comprehension. >>>>> I'll tell you what I think it is its drugs in the 80's. >>>>> But it might be Public relations. Your clients are supposed to think >>>>> that >>>>> even though you yourself are not making the prints the relation >>>>> between >>>>> you >>>>> and your assistant or printer is so involved that its worth all the >>>>> ridiculous money they are paying you for the job and or print. >>>>> >>>>> In reality when you go through sheets and sheets of paper in the >>>>> darkroom >>>>> its a rather organic process of trial and error. And you cant be >>>>> reminded >>>>> of >>>>> it from a mark up or controlled by someone giving you a marked up thing >>>>> like >>>>> that. The printer has to sweat it out themselves. Adams called it a >>>>> performance of a score. But your head is not buried in the score. You >>>>> have >>>>> to look up from time to time and cue your orchestra. >>>>> -- >>>>> Mark R. >>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/ >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information