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Subject: [Leica] Magnum & the Dying Art of Darkroom Printing
From: tcharara at mac.com (Tarek Charara)
Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 09:55:40 +0100
References: <CB7DDB5F.1B483%mark@rabinergroup.com>

So? I like achieving similar results for a particular print and so I do note 
my dodging and burning on my final test prints. I would go crazy if I 
didn't?Specially when doing limited edition prints and don't do the whole 
batch at the same time. And IF I change papers, I usually start with the 
results I noted and go from there. If I want to achieve a different 
interpretation, I also start from that particular annotated print and try 
new stuff? It's not perfect, but sure is better than re-inventing the wheel 
every time. And ymmv? 

And as to time spent in the darkroom? 35 years here. But I must be a bit 
younger? ;)

All the best from Paris!

Tarek

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Tarek Charara
<http://www.tarekcharara.com>

NO ARCHIVE




Le 8 mars 2012 ? 09:43, Mark Rabiner a ?crit :

> Its just that I've over 4 decades printed and half my friends did the same.
> As in printed the same neg on different papers different times. Different
> sizes for different shows or clients. RC and or Fiber. C print or
> Cibachrome.  And had our assistants do It and or a custom printer do it.
> Its scintillating horsepucky.
> 
> -- 
> Mark R.
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/
> 
> 
>> From: Tarek Charara <tcharara at mac.com>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 09:12:33 +0100
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Magnum & the Dying Art of Darkroom Printing
>> 
>> You'd have to make those note at some final stage so that you don't start 
>> the
>> whole trial and error process all over again. years later when you need to
>> print again.
>> 
>> All the best from Paris!
>> 
>> Tarek
>> 
>> -------------------------------------------------
>> Tarek Charara
>> <http://www.tarekcharara.com>
>> 
>> NO ARCHIVE
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Le 8 mars 2012 ? 06:06, Mark Rabiner a ?crit :
>> 
>>> I cant figure out if this is an example of a kind of obsesive compulsive
>>> psychosis or an attempt at humor. There is also a famous one of a head 
>>> from
>>> Avedon. An image marked up way past any reason or comprehension.
>>> I'll tell you what I think it is its drugs in the 80's.
>>> But it might be Public relations. Your clients are supposed to think that
>>> even though you  yourself are not making the prints the relation between 
>>> you
>>> and your assistant or printer is so involved that its worth all the
>>> ridiculous money they are paying you for the job and or print.
>>> 
>>> In reality when you go through sheets and sheets of paper in the darkroom
>>> its a rather organic process of trial and error. And you cant be 
>>> reminded of
>>> it from a mark up or controlled by someone giving you a marked up thing 
>>> like
>>> that. The printer has to sweat it out themselves. Adams called it a
>>> performance of a score. But your head is not buried in the score. You 
>>> have
>>> to look up from time to time and cue your orchestra.
>>> -- 
>>> Mark R.
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/
>> 
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