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Subject: [Leica] S2 vs. 645D
From: richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man)
Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 22:43:12 -0800
References: <CB79BC92.F44C%chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com> <629F713E-5E59-4600-806E-4A2E3A5D4AED@frozenlight.eu>

The funniest anecdote I have heard is that a Mini Cooper (which are
exceedingly popular around here, along with Priuii) drove into a minivan at
an intersection - apparently the fault of the minivan driver - and the Mini
owner was able to drive away whereas the minivan has a dent the shape of a
Mini Cooper. There were even photos to prove it!

On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 10:34 PM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at 
frozenlight.eu>wrote:

> Sorry Chris, but I have no reason to distrust NHTSA (as opposed to other
> gov't agencies) and I prefer a result of careful testing to anecdotal
> evidence.
>
> Let's just agree to disagree. The "big cars are safer" myth is one I heard
> often when trying to figure out why people in the US insist of wasting
> energy the way they do.
>
> Cheers,
> Nathan
>
> Nathan Wajsman
> Alicante, Spain
> http://www.frozenlight.eu
> http://www.greatpix.eu
> http://www.nathanfoto.com
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> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
>
>
> YNWA
>
>
>
> On Mar 5, 2012, at 7:05 AM, Chris Crawford wrote:
>
> > Don't believe everything the government tells you. In 2000, I was driving
> > my 1991 Chevy Caprice down West Jefferson Boulevard, Fort Wayne's main
> > east-west road. Speed limit on the highway is 50mph, and I was going
> close
> > to that when a woman who was high on pot ran a stop light and pulled into
> > an intersection I was passing through. I slammed on my brakes and my car
> > crashed directly into the side of her Ford Tempo, a small car. My car
> > caved in the side of her car and pushed it 50 feet off the road. My car
> > was smashed a bit in the front but was still driveable. I drove it home!
> >
> > --
> > Chris Crawford
> > Fine Art Photography
> > Fort Wayne, Indiana
> > 260-437-8990
> >
> > http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My portfolio
> >
> > http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My latest work!
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > On 3/5/12 12:29 AM, "Nathan Wajsman" <photo at frozenlight.eu> wrote:
> >
> >> What you say only applies to frontal collisions. According to NHTSA, in
> >> all their other categories (side impact, rollover etc.) vehicle
> >> size/weight is irrelevant.
> >>
> >> Nathan Wajsman
> >> Alicante, Spain
> >> http://www.frozenlight.eu
> >> http://www.greatpix.eu
> >> http://www.nathanfoto.com
> >> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
> >> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
> >>
> >>
> >> YNWA
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mar 5, 2012, at 4:54 AM, Chris Crawford wrote:
> >>
> >>> Here, you have idiots in giant SUVs who all think the traffic laws
> don't
> >>> apply to them. I see these dickheads every day running stop signs,
> >>> speeding like crazy, tailgating anyone who dares drive the speed limit,
> >>> etc. An Escort gets hits by a big SUV, and the Escort and its
> passengers
> >>> are squished like bugs under your feet. I drive a Crown Victoria
> because
> >>> of this. These guys in SUVs respect a big car like that because they
> >>> know
> >>> if they hit it, the Crown Vic is not going to flatten like an econobox.
> >>> It
> >>> costs more for gas, but its worth it to know I won't get myself killed
> >>> by
> >>> some fool.
> >>>
> >>> I obey traffic laws and drive safely. Few others here do. My life is
> >>> worth
> >>> more than theirs.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Chris Crawford
> >>> Fine Art Photography
> >>> Fort Wayne, Indiana
> >>> 260-437-8990
> >>>
> >>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My portfolio
> >>>
> >>> http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My latest work!
> >>>
> >>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798
> >>> Become a fan on Facebook
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 3/4/12 6:00 PM, "John McMaster" <john at mcmaster.co.nz> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Seems to be adequate for most of the (non-US) world ;-)
> >>>>
> >>>> john
> >>>> ________________________________________
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> She hated that Escort the entire time she had it. It was a little
> >>>> tin-can
> >>>> shitbox that rode rough, had no engine power, was claustrophobically
> >>>> small
> >>>> inside, and God help you if you get in a wreck with someone driving a
> >>>> big
> >>>> car!
> >>>>
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// richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>


In reply to: Message from chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com (Chris Crawford) ([Leica] S2 vs. 645D)
Message from photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman) ([Leica] S2 vs. 645D)