Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/02/08

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Subject: [Leica] Nocti/0.95 is so 2009. How about a 2 LBS T0.95?
From: rgacpa at gmail.com (Robert Adler)
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 22:37:53 -0800
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Well I'll open my Kimono here.

I just bought a use Nocti; last generation before the 0.95. It's being
coded and matched to an M9 in NJ. I paid $6,500. There. I said it. I feel
better already!

I don't think I would have been willing to fork over $2,300 less for a
product with unknown performance and from a manufacturer without a long
history of quality. If after a year I hear that it's a better lens than the
Nocti I bought, fine. I'll kick myself around the block a few times while
looking at the images caught over that year.
But for quality of lens, I'll talk Leica and put my money where my mouth is.

And as far as Erwin Putz, he's no god, but he does know lens measurement
and has the historical perspective and experience to compare. So I do trust
his measurements and his opinions drawn from them to a degree. After that
it's up to the photographer.

The only new lens I bought was the new 21/3.4, in large part based on
Erwin's enthusiasm but also based on need (I don't tend to that wide in low
light), size (an incredibly compact 21) and cost (relative to the 1.4).

So all things being pretty equal (this lens vs the Noctilux) I'll give
Leica a big benefit of doubt on their lens quality.
Just my opinion, since I have nothing else to do until my kit arrives...
:'-(

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Frank Filippone <red735i at 
earthlink.net>wrote:

> I stand somewhat corrected......
>
> What I should have said is:
>
> > Price is listed as $8350 HKD..... in 4/3 mount.
> >
> > That is $1076 by today's exchange rate.
> >
> > US Price is $4288 USD for an M mount.
> >
> > That is a LOT of HK labor hours for a different mount.......even with RF
> Coupling.
>
> Keep in mind the cheapest CV lens has this coupling, and it is the 21/4 P
> Color Skopar M mount at $419 with lens elements......
> Hard to justify a $3K up lift in cost because of RF coupling.
>
> Frank Filippone
> Red735i at earthlink.net
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+red735i=earthlink.net at leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+red735i=earthlink.net at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
> John
> Collier
> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:27 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Nocti/0.95 is so 2009. How about a 2 LBS T0.95?
>
> A 4/3 mount wouldn't require coupling to the rangefinder. I would assume
> that the M mount version is coupled.
>
> John
>
> On 2012-02-08, at 10:13 PM, Frank Filippone wrote:
>
> > Price is listed as $8350 HKD..... in 4/3 mount.
> >
> > That is $1076 by today's exchange rate.
> >
> > US Price is $4288 USD for an M mount.
> >
> > That is a LOT of HK labor hours for a different mount.......
>
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-- 
Bob Adler
Palo Alto, CA
http://www.rgaphoto.com


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