Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/02/07
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]"rational photographer" Thanks! I like that! But that's true. They have to pander to those buying their products en masse. Phil Forrest On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 22:21:02 +0100 Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu> wrote: > Phil, you speak from the point of view of a rational photographer, a > point of view which I share. But that is not Leica's market segment > these days. The main market is nouveau riches in China and other > emerging markets, and dilettantes in the West, who want neck > jewellery. And that requires new models. > > Cheers, > Nathan > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ > > > YNWA > > > > On Feb 7, 2012, at 10:09 PM, Phil Forrest wrote: > > > Well, soft goods make the money for camera manufacturers, not camera > > bodies. I can guarantee that if Leica put out such a device, they > > wouldn't be able to make enough to satisfy demand. They can't > > already on the M9 and its various models. Sure, it's not sexy but > > that's what happens when you make a product that is both mature and > > satisfies most of the user constituency. the bulk of M9 shooters > > don't want or need the features that are included in the big DSLRs. > > Once Leica goes that route and my M9 doesn't work anymore, I'll use > > an old Nikon. Like the company being slow to adapt and adopt new > > tech/ideas, I'll bet Leica users prefer the simplicity of shutter > > speed, aperture, iso, focus as the only controls. > > > > They shouldn't be forced to release a new camera model this year. > > What they should do is make little but needed improvements in their > > already existing line. > > > > Phil Forrest > > > > > > > > On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 21:40:32 +0100 > > Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu> wrote: > > > >> Except that this autumn is the world's most important photo trade > >> show, Photokina in Cologne. It only happens every other year, and > >> Leica is expected to have something sexy and exciting for the > >> occasion. Extended batteries just don't cut it in the sexiness > >> department I'm afraid. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Nathan > >> > >> Nathan Wajsman > >> Alicante, Spain > >> http://www.frozenlight.eu > >> http://www.greatpix.eu > >> http://www.nathanfoto.com > >> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > >> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ > >> > >> > >> YNWA > >> > >> > >> > >> On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:29 PM, Phil Forrest wrote: > >> > >>> I think the best upgrade would be an accessory, not unlike the > >>> Leicavit, in which extended battery life could be gotten from. > >>> Either by a new totally rechargeable set of Li-Ion Leica-specific > >>> cells or by 6-8 rechargeable batteries available easily on the > >>> drugstore shelf. The ability to use Alkaline, Lithium and NiMH > >>> batteries could be added via a regulator switch in the new battery > >>> pack body. I've been dreaming of something like this for a few > >>> years now but no one has come up with it for some reason. I'm no > >>> electrical engineer, nor do i have the tools or materials to > >>> fashion the chassis of this battery pack. > >>> But THIS is what we need, for existing M8 and M9 bodies, not an > >>> M10. > >>> > >>> Phil Forrest > >>> > >>> > >>> On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 18:50:41 +0000 (GMT) > >>> FRANK DERNIE <frank.dernie at btinternet.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I don't actually -need- any of those :-) > >>>> I would like a better buffer and speed but I suspect the price we > >>>> have for the digital M being so small is no space for a big > >>>> battery and not much power to drive faster chips. I am not so > >>>> sure that battery technology has moved on far enough to resolve > >>>> this. If it needed to be bigger of heavier I would stay with the > >>>> smaller buffer since it is only rarely a limitation for me. I > >>>> also like the idea of a built in 1.4 magnifier. > >>>> > >>>> I am actually pretty happy with my M9. It is overall the best > >>>> camera I have ever owned. FD > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> ________________________________ > >>>>> From: mehrdad <msadat at gmail.com> > >>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2012, 18:36 > >>>>> Subject: [Leica] leica m10 > >>>>> > >>>>> it seems that the new m digital is around the corner (sep/oct), > >>>>> what shall we expect after three years and 8k price? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> i for one do need the following > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> 1) image stabilization built in to the body (they can licsnce > >>>>> this technology from sony, thier old partner) > >>>>> 2) much better buffer and more frames per second > >>>>> 3) shooting movies with m (not for me) > >>>>> 4) fuji x10/pro like view finder > >>>>> 5) better battery life and better battery > >>>>> 6) 36 meg is now the norm, so something close > >>>>> 7) a built in 1.4x magnifier, that u can use at will > >>>>> 8) all the given dynamic range and high iso performance (it is > >>>>> now three yrs later) > >>>>> 9) a better price but i think is is truly a dream > >>>>> 10) do we care about live view? > >>>>> -- > >>>>> ------------------------------------- > >>>>> regards, mehrdad > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Leica Users Group. > >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > >>>>> information > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Leica Users Group. > >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > >>>> information > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Leica Users Group. > >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > >>> information > >>> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > >> information > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information