Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/12/27
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Hi Ted, I haven't tried Lightroom since the trial version, and I wasn't comfortable with it, so I went back to Elements, which I have used for years. I believe in shooting RAW, because there is much more detail to work with, and much more flexibility in image processing. I think Tina is offering good advice. I suspect that Lightroom just lost its location data for your files. Computers seem to find ways to frustrate us with little things, while being indispensable for a lot of work. I don't have Lightroom installed, so I can't try Tina's "click on" suggestion. But, if I were in your shoes, I would give it a try, and, if it doesn't seem to work, ask her for more suggestions. She uses the program daily, and probably knows more about it than even she realizes. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: <tedgrant at shaw.ca> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [Leica] photoshop-vs-lightroom > Adam Bridge OFFERED: >>>> This is seriously neat and means that your original file is ALWAYS > there to be edited in its original state.<<<<<< > > Hi Adam, > That being the case how is it when I was shooting RAW and downloading into > Lightroom. All had been going fine and I'd do the same routine everytime. > WHEN ONE DAY???????? > > All I had on screen was about 2000 or more nice looking grey coloured 35mm > looking frames in the Lightroom folders / files? Pictures? Images? > Frames? NADA !!! Not one but blank grey 35mm frames.... Unfortunately lost > some important stuff. :-( > > My immediate response??? Screw this LR stuff.... went back to shooting > JPEG and using Photoshop and all has been perfect ever since. > > I keep hearing LIGHTROOM folks say.... "The images are in there you just > have to find them!" Well OK I have looked in every conceivable click on > spot..... same thing, " beautiful grey coloured 35mm blank frames!" > Another? "OFFLINE OR MISSING!" Yeah right, they sure as hell are missing! > >>>>This is seriously neat and means that your original file is ALWAYS there >>>>to be edited in its original state.<<<< > > I can only offer...... "REALLY?" And where might I find them? I have found > some in folders through the Photoshop system.. But hundreds of > others??????????????? no where in site. If they were giving away the very > best LR system for free I'd have doubts about taking it. Unfortunately > when I read all the good & great stuff you fok are sayng about Light Room. > > cheers, > ted > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Pearce" <billcpearce at cox.net> > To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> > Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 9:34 AM > Subject: Re: [Leica] photoshop-vs-lightroom > > >> I'm not so sure I understand this non-destructive business. It is >> supposed to be the end-all answer to our problems, and answer to a >> question that seemed without an answer, and yet I've been doing the same >> thing for years. Simple, really, before photoshopping a file, save it >> with a different name, and do all you want to it, the original remains >> untouched. >> >> Oh well, I never said I was smart. >> >> Bill Pearce >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Adam Bridge >> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 11:01 AM >> To: Leica Users Group >> Subject: Re: [Leica] photoshop-vs-lightroom >> >> On thing not mentioned: Lightroom is entirely non-destructive to your >> images. Everything it does is parametric - that is the changes are done >> on the fly. This is seriously neat and means that your original file is >> ALWAYS there to be edited in its original state. >> >> Photoshop doesn't do that unless you convert to smart filters. >> >> It's the creation of masks on the fly that is amazing inside Lightroom. I >> have a bit of an inkling on how it does it, but I sure admire the >> engineers who implemented those features. >> >> There are tasks that only Photoshop can do. If you need layers and >> compositing then Lightroom isn't it - although you can do much before you >> get to the point where you need those. >> >> I'm making these points, not to convince Mark that he's wrong, but simply >> to bring out a fundamental and profound difference between the two >> software environments. >> >> Adam >> >> On Dec 26, 2011, at 5:24 AM, Mark Rabiner wrote: >> >>> http://mansurovs.com/photoshop-vs-lightroom >>> Here is a comparison. >>> There are hundreds of others you could find in a minute. >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >