Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/12/27
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I really agree with Nathan. LR3 does far more than could be done in a darkroom, especially the HSL panel, and that's good enough for me. Normally, I crop, get the verticals/horizontals correct if necessary, fix the color balance, spot if necessary, rarely use the dodging brush or graduated filter. I have occasionally had to bring up dark areas with fill light, which works wonderfully. I pretty automatically throw in a minimal amount of "clarity" and "vibrance". The final step is sharpening and, in the case of highest few ISO values, noise reduction. In a few cases, I have obtained the effect of extreme dodging by picking Luminance in HSL panel and by just dragging on an area of the color of interest brightening or darkening everything of that color. This is also a useful trick when converting to black and white. On one occasion, because I was too lazy to fire up my wife's PS Elements, I removed two strands of barbed wire that were between me and a donkey. Very clumsy and time-consuming in LR but did the job. Because of the way LR spots, you have to make the spotting tool into as wide a circle as the subject will permit and then remove the wire in sections by dragging perpendicular to the wire, whereas in PS you can simply drag along the wire in one step. Herb >I guess then I am a low-level point-and-shooter, because I am >perfectly happy with the adjustments I make in LR: converting from >RAW, cropping, spotting if needed, levels, saturation, contrast, >sharpening if needed, conversion to B&W with superb tone controls. I >am not a Photoshop artist but a photographer. I am quite happy to >restrict myself to the adjustments that correspond to what I used to >do in the darkroom, and this is where LR shines. All that stuff with >layers and liquify filters and I don't know what is totally >unnecessary for me. > >The only of the above mentioned activities at which Photoshop is >better than Lightroom is spotting. For that reason, I still have PS >CS 3 which I use on my film scans, since they invariably need a lot >more spotting than digital images. > >Cheers, >Nathan > >Nathan Wajsman >Alicante, Spain >http://www.frozenlight.eu >http://www.greatpix.eu >http://www.nathanfoto.com >PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ > > >YNWA > > > >On Dec 26, 2011, at 11:35 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote: > > > People who do this - Use Photoshop for many of their images after > getting > > them in Lightroom or whatever I have no issue with. I think that should > be > > clear by now. No problem of course with Tina's or Georges workflows. > > I do have a bit of a problem with the idea that Lightroom is all you > need > > after you buy your camera to digitally deal with your pix. > > Unless we are dealing with the whole thing on a pretty low level like > point > > and shoot users. > > And I'd hope people with Leica sensibilities are not dealing on that > low of > > a level. 3 or 4 grand for a lens why not make a commitment to the > > photograph you make with it? > > > > -- > > Mark R. > > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/ > > > > > > > >> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com> > >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > >> Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 12:47:01 -0800 > >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > >> Subject: Re: [Leica] photoshop-vs-lightroom > >> > >> Hi Mark, yes, ACR has exactly the same engine as the develop module as > >> Lightroom. I think I mentioned it a few times. > >> > >> My typical workflow is to use LR to catalog and browse the images, do > most > >> of the processing work in LR, and use PS5 for certain images. I have a > >> couple killer plugin from George DeWolfe that runs under PS5 only and > most > >> of my "final" images go through them. > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Leica Users Group. >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information -- Herbert Kanner kanner at acm.org 650-326-8204 Question authority and the authorities will question you.