Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/12/19

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Subject: [Leica] Looking at buying an M8
From: frank.dernie at btinternet.com (FRANK DERNIE)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 17:19:34 +0000 (GMT)
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Being a keen amateur photographer I got to know the pros who shoot Formula 1 
pretty well over the 35 years I was travelling to races. I remember one of 
the first ones to change over to digital telling me his camera, the top 
Nikon digital SLR, had paid for itself in 4 months in saved film costs. 
Digital was much more relatively e-x-p-n-s-i-v-e then too...
Frank?



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> From: "tedgrant at shaw.ca" <tedgrant at shaw.ca>
>To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> 
>Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011, 15:12
>Subject: Re: [Leica] Looking at buying an M8
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>Jayanand OFFERED:
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>> Frank,
>> Yes - but I bet you junked 99.9% of the clicks - in other words, most were
>> not required, and a total waste - most of us do end up with 10 identical
>> shots pretty often, don't we? Digital is not cheap, once you factor in the
>> cost, in terms of hardware, software and time that you spend in post
>> processing and digital printing as well. There are many reasons why I am
>> exclusively using digital nowadays, but low cost is most definitely not 
>> one
>> of them.<<<<<<<<
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>Hi? Jayanand,
>May I make a small offering on digital VS film costs.
>MASTERFILE Stock Agency in Toronto, Canada? with several offices about the 
>world.? Some of the top end photographers when stock was selling well and 
>they were all using film cameras were astounded when doing a complete 
>switch to all digital in their film cost savings in the first year.
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>Bill Brooks, I suppose the leader of the 50 photographers shooting for this 
>outfit saved........ $20,000 dollars in film and processing cost first year 
>changing to only digital. As it turned out their over all production of 
>high end images increased, they? shot more and different variations, yet 
>their over all costs went down.? He wasn't alone in this kind of saving.
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>Given my film costs during the "good old days?" Was always a cost many 
>people I shot assignments for whined about. But once going to digital and 
>we charge for computer time instead of film the whining has stopped.
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>In any event I'll take digital over film any day and my only complaint 
>about digital is.......... "It's 50 years too late!" :-) And I use M8 and 
>love it! Obviously I prefer M9's, but for now the M8's work just fine.
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>cheers,
>Dr. ted :-)
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>----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Filippone" <red735i at 
>earthlink.net>
>To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug at leica-users.org>
>Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 9:19 PM
>Subject: Re: [Leica] Looking at buying an M8
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>> My hit rate is a bit better than 0.1%....? 1:1000 is pretty dismal.....
>> 
>>? I think the more you must think about the image, taking your time with
>> metering the exposure by hand, using a tripod for exact camera placement,
>> focus accuracy, and having to set the camera up completely, you rarely 
>> waste
>> your time with "lousy" images.? My 6x6 hit rate is considerably higher 
>> than
>> my 35mm ever was.....
>> 
>> The point I was making is Digital cost payback is a pretty hard
>> analysis......
>> 
>> Sort of like comparing the M8 total cost with the M9 total cost........ It
>> is not as simple as the $4-5K body cost difference.....
>> 
>> Frank Filippone
>> Red735i at earthlink.net
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>> 
>> Frank,
>> Yes - but I bet you junked 99.9% of the clicks - in other words, most were
>> not required, and a total waste - most of us do end up with 10 identical
>> shots pretty often, don't we? Digital is not cheap, once you factor in the
>> cost, in terms of hardware, software and time that you spend in post
>> processing and digital printing as well. There are many reasons why I am
>> exclusively using digital nowadays, but low cost is most definitely not 
>> one
>> of them.
>> Cheers
>> Jayanand
>> 
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In reply to: Message from wildlightphoto at earthlink.net (Doug Herr) ([Leica] Looking at buying an M8)
Message from red735i at earthlink.net (Frank Filippone) ([Leica] Looking at buying an M8)
Message from jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj) ([Leica] Looking at buying an M8)
Message from red735i at earthlink.net (Frank Filippone) ([Leica] Looking at buying an M8)
Message from tedgrant at shaw.ca (tedgrant at shaw.ca) ([Leica] Looking at buying an M8)