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Subject: [Leica] Looking at buying an M8
From: jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 20:55:25 +0530
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Ted,
You are talking from a professional's perspective, while I am talking from 
an amateur's.
Cheers
Jayanand

Sent from my iPad

On 19-Dec-2011, at 8:42 PM, <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Jayanand OFFERED:
> 
>> Frank,
>> Yes - but I bet you junked 99.9% of the clicks - in other words, most were
>> not required, and a total waste - most of us do end up with 10 identical
>> shots pretty often, don't we? Digital is not cheap, once you factor in the
>> cost, in terms of hardware, software and time that you spend in post
>> processing and digital printing as well. There are many reasons why I am
>> exclusively using digital nowadays, but low cost is most definitely not 
>> one
>> of them.<<<<<<<<
> 
> Hi  Jayanand,
> May I make a small offering on digital VS film costs.
> MASTERFILE Stock Agency in Toronto, Canada  with several offices about the 
> world.  Some of the top end photographers when stock was selling well and 
> they were all using film cameras were astounded when doing a complete 
> switch to all digital in their film cost savings in the first year.
> 
> Bill Brooks, I suppose the leader of the 50 photographers shooting for 
> this outfit saved........ $20,000 dollars in film and processing cost 
> first year changing to only digital. As it turned out their over all 
> production of high end images increased, they  shot more and different 
> variations, yet their over all costs went down.  He wasn't alone in this 
> kind of saving.
> 
> Given my film costs during the "good old days?" Was always a cost many 
> people I shot assignments for whined about. But once going to digital and 
> we charge for computer time instead of film the whining has stopped.
> 
> In any event I'll take digital over film any day and my only complaint 
> about digital is.......... "It's 50 years too late!" :-) And I use M8 and 
> love it! Obviously I prefer M9's, but for now the M8's work just fine.
> 
> cheers,
> Dr. ted :-)
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Filippone" <red735i at 
> earthlink.net>
> To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug at leica-users.org>
> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 9:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Looking at buying an M8
> 
> 
>> My hit rate is a bit better than 0.1%....  1:1000 is pretty dismal.....
>> 
>> I think the more you must think about the image, taking your time with
>> metering the exposure by hand, using a tripod for exact camera placement,
>> focus accuracy, and having to set the camera up completely, you rarely 
>> waste
>> your time with "lousy" images.  My 6x6 hit rate is considerably higher 
>> than
>> my 35mm ever was.....
>> 
>> The point I was making is Digital cost payback is a pretty hard
>> analysis......
>> 
>> Sort of like comparing the M8 total cost with the M9 total cost........ It
>> is not as simple as the $4-5K body cost difference.....
>> 
>> Frank Filippone
>> Red735i at earthlink.net
>> 
>> 
>> Frank,
>> Yes - but I bet you junked 99.9% of the clicks - in other words, most were
>> not required, and a total waste - most of us do end up with 10 identical
>> shots pretty often, don't we? Digital is not cheap, once you factor in the
>> cost, in terms of hardware, software and time that you spend in post
>> processing and digital printing as well. There are many reasons why I am
>> exclusively using digital nowadays, but low cost is most definitely not 
>> one
>> of them.
>> Cheers
>> Jayanand
>> 
>> 
>> 
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