Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/12/13
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Steve, Yes. The AF-S Nikkor 24-120 f4G ED VR, to give it its catalogue monicker, is a soft lens with quite a bit of distortion at both ends. I bought it on specs without trying it out, which I normally never do, which was an unforced error if ever there was one. It is a lens that gives convenience at the cost of optical quality, a bad trade off. IMHO, the older one (AF-S 24-85 f3.5-4.5G) is lighter, more compact, less expensive and better performing, albeit in a narrower zoom range. Both have AFS, and 'G' type lenses, but the older lens does not have VR, which I have not found to be a material disadvantage in this zoom range. It is going to stay on my D700 as my walk around, standard zoom lens. Cheers Jayanand On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com>wrote: > > On Dec 13, 2011, at 7:56 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj wrote: > > > Mark, > > I find the old 24-85 f3.5 - 4.5G lens to be superior in every way. Buying > > the latest version of the 24-120 (the f4 one) > > > is this the identical VR lens that Mark speaks of? > > Steve > > > > was a big mistake - I am > > going to advertise and sell it this weekend. > > Cheers > > Jayanand > > > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com > >wrote: > > > >> I check B&H and find that they sell a "kit" Nikon D700 SLR Digital > Camera > >> Kit with 24-120mm VR Lens for $3,996.90 (and you'd think you'd have to > pay > >> Four Grand for such a combo) > >> This is a lens I'd kill for. The pix I'd do with one would take no > >> prisoners. I'd never sleep. > >> The lens itself cost thirteen hundred bucks and uses a 77mm filter. > >> Not real Leica like. But will do in the interim. > >> > >> And faster than a measly 700 millions miles an hour too. > >> If that's as fast as I could ever go I'd get a tune up! > >> > >> -- > >> Mark R. > >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/onthisAutumnday/ > >> > >> > >>> From: Mark William Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> > >>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > >>> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:05:07 -0500 > >>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] High Rez Bergdorf's window > >>> > >>> Mine too. > >>> -- > >>> Mark R. > >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/onthisAutumnday/ > >>> > >>> > >>>> From: Gene duprey <grduprey at mchsi.com> > >>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > >>>> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 11:23:20 -0600 (CST) > >>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > >>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] High Rez Bergdorf's window > >>>> > >>>> My D700 was lens free (No lens) > >>> > >>> Gene > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: > >>>> "philippe.amard" <philippe.amard at sfr.fr> > >>> To: "Leica Users Group" > >>>> <lug at leica-users.org> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 12:32:09 AM GMT -06:00 > >>>> US/Canada Central > >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] High Rez Bergdorf's window > >>> > >>> Le 13 d?c. > >>>> 11 ? 01:36, Mark Rabiner a ?crit : > >>> > >>>> That's a perk on the nikon vs. canon > >>>> lenses. Their kit glass really > >>>> has > >>>> great specs. As long as you don't > >>>> bang them going through a door out > >>>> of > >>>> whack. They look embarrassing but > >>>> they make very good images. Though > >>>> I've > >>>> not used one in over a year > >>>> there is not kit glass for full frame. > >>> > >>> I bought my D700 with the infamous > >>>> -free- 24-10 ; package by Nikon, Mark > >>> different markets I guess > >>> Philippe > >>> > >>> > >>>> I > >>>> was shooting this thing on P so it was wide open which was 5.6 at > >>>> 20mm > >>>> > >>>> which means everything front to back is sharp as hell. I could not > >>>> even > >>>> > >>>> believe it. That's also an advantage to shooting cropped. Its ten > >>>> times > >>>> > >>>> harder for me to get it all with my 24-85 full frame glass which in > >>>> > >>>> comparison weights a ton. > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Mark R. > >>>> > >>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> From: Jim Nichols > >>>> <jhnichols at lighttube.net> > >>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group > >>>> <lug at leica-users.org> > >>>>> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:52:05 -0600 > >>>>> To: Leica > >>>> Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] High Rez Bergdorf's > >>>> window > >>>>> > >>>>> Very nicely captured, Mark. Nice to find a gem among the bargain > >>>> > >>>>> lenses. > >>>>> > >>>>> Jim Nichols > >>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA > >>>>> ----- Original Message > >>>> ----- > >>>>> From: "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com> > >>>>> To: "Leica Users > >>>> Group" <lug at leica-users.org> > >>>>> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 12:01 PM > >>>>> > >>>> Subject: [Leica] High Rez Bergdorf's window > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> I was going over > >>>> window's I'd shot Dec 12 2008 at Bergdorf's that > >>>>>> night and > >>>>>> was > >>>> amazed by the detail and high quality so I checked the > >>>>>> metadata to > >>>> see > >>>>>> which of my real money Nikon glass I'd shot it with. The 28 1.4 or > >>>> > >>>>>> perhaps > >>>>>> 14 2.8. > >>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/c4bmnog > >>>>>> It turned out the > >>>> be the lowly 99 dollar special 18.0-55.0 mm f/ > >>>>>> 3.5-5.6 DX > >>>>>> non VR > >>>> which you get when you click the sort for cheaper at top > >>>>>> bottom on > >>>>>> > >>>> the Adorama or B&H sites. Maybe Calumet. > >>>>>> So I left it at a much higher > >>>> rez than 1200 pixels on the long > >>>>>> end so you > >>>>>> can really see it when > >>>> you click the zoom in button on the LUG > >>>>>> gallery. > >>>>>> The iso was 400 so > >>>> there really was a lot of light in these > >>>>>> window. And it > >>>>>> makes for > >>>> some real quality images. > >>>>>> The windows at Bergdorf's which are the best > >>>> I've ever seen > >>>>>> anywhere have > >>>>>> not been as good the past three of > >>>> years. 09 and 10 and '11. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Mark R. > >>>>>> > >>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Leica Users Group. > >>>>>> See > >>>> http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > >>>> information > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Leica Users Group. > >>>>> See > >>>> http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Leica Users Group. > >>>> See > >>>> http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > >>>> information > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Leica Users > >>>> Group. > >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > >>>> information > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Leica Users > >>>> Group. > >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Leica Users Group. > >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >