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Subject: [Leica] A photo which costs more than a Cindy Sherman! BETTER DIRECTIONS!
From: photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman)
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 10:27:08 +0100
References: <000801cca0dd$601fdfe0$205f9fa0$@chiaroscuro.co.nz> <82016AC7-7887-432C-B161-417FC785E445@gmail.com> <4EBDDBEE.8080105@cox.net> <19CFE570-10CF-43BA-86AA-E4C74B3C5D64@ameritech.net> <4486DCE069594B16B7722E93DDC2CB2F@syneticfeba505> <p0624082dcae3b3fe415c@192.168.1.104> <5660B6856FBB4B6593A8291B18E8E339@syneticfeba505> <p06240832cae512525c8b@192.168.1.104> <CAAZ9c+0GODpiBqNi69riWabQQCQw_9OAnsSmH0qNJOquYSP+sA@mail.gmail.com>

No, I had not read the comments, indeed.

Ted, did you report the guy to wordpress.com? You should be able to get the 
guy shut down.

Cheers,
Nathan

Nathan Wajsman
Alicante, Spain
http://www.frozenlight.eu
http://www.greatpix.eu
http://www.nathanfoto.com
PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/


YNWA



On Nov 13, 2011, at 9:48 AM, piers at hemy.org wrote:

> did you read the comments on the Wordpress page, Herb? The one from Dr
> Ted himself, noting that the image appears to have been stolen?
> 
> I assume Nathan (IP professional, no?) didn't either!
> 
> Piers
> 
> On 13/11/2011, Herbert Kanner <kanner at acm.org> wrote:
>> Thanks, Ted. BTW, Nathan Wajsman sent me this link, which had not
>> only the picture but a piece about Trudeau:
>> http://iconicphotos.wordpress.com/2010/04/09/trudeau-slides-down-a-banister/
>> 
>> Herb
>> 
>>>> Ted,
>>>> 
>>>> I'd love to see that picture of the Prime Minister. I looked at
>>>> tedgrant.com (first at Portraits and then at Fine Art--had to be
>>>> art :-)--and finally everywhere else. What's the secret key?
>>>> 
>>>> Herb :-(
>>> 
>>> Hi Herb,
>>> See site address.... TEDGRANTPHOTO.COM    Then click on Biography
>>> and it is there along with a couple other Happy Snaps! :-)
>>> 
>>> Thank you for looking and apologies due to lack of directions.
>>> cheers,
>>> ted
>>> 
>>> ===========================
>>>>> Ken Carney OFFERED:
>>>>>>> Henceforth, I will print only in editions of six.  So much yet to
>>>>>>> learn about this business.<<<
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Ken,
>>>>> A short Friday evening LUG quick scan of postings and I happened to
>>>>> notice this "Fine ART Print photograph.?" :-) And your comment of
>>>>> price. :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> On my webpage TEDGRANTPHOTO.COM  it is possible to see my photograph
>>>>> in question ... I'm the only shooter in the world who took it!
>>>>> Canada's Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau sliding down a banister stair
>>>>> case railing.  Simple enough photo to say the least. M6, manual
>>>>> focus, film and be there sort of moment! :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> And only me, simply because I heard people laughing, turned around?
>>>>> AND THERE HE WAS.... "CLICK!"
>>>>> 
>>>>> HOWEVER! Only 5 signed 16X20 prints have been sold. each at $1000.00
>>>>> That was it!
>>>>> 
>>>>> However recently the photograph has been considered in the world
>>>>> shaking capitals of the world or wherever these things are done?
>>>>> 
>>>>> #1
>>>>> Considered: "The most ICONIC POLITICAL PHOTOGRAPH IN THE HISTORY OF
>>>>> CANADA!" The price will increase immeasurably through the gallery
>>>>> handling my prints for sale if requested?.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2# Next evaluation:
>>>>> Considered: "The Second most, "ICONIC PHOTOGRAPH IN THE HISTORY OF
>>>>> CANADA." I have no problem being second as I'm beat out by a
>>>>> photograph taken during WW1 as the Canadian Army forces charged
>>>>> "VIMY RIDGE!"  How could one feel bad about being second to a moment
>>>>> like that? Imagine the photographer with whatever type camera and
>>>>> sheet film in the middle of that most horrendous battle? ... It sure
>>>>> as hell wasn't a Leica!
>>>>> 
>>>>> But what has happened is........ "The value of my photograph of the
>>>>> Prime Minister has increased immeasurably." Due to the evaluation
>>>>> counts. I didn't know anything about it until advised recently!
>>>>> 
>>>>> The sale of prints has it's up's and downs, sometimes beyond our
>>>>> wildest imaginations when we look at the photograph! The action of a
>>>>> known celebrity or a quiet farm scene somwhere on the planet! ART
>>>>> PHOTOGRAPHY? It's judged by the "ART COMMUNITIES OF THE WORLD!"  And
>>>>> most of us don't have a clue what they think nor re-act to.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Re-action by another photographer? "Well hell all he's doing is
>>>>> sliding down a banister! Get over it! Hell anybody could've shot
>>>>> that."
>>>>> 
>>>>> He's right. ;-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> But think about this in cameras of today?  Manual focus M6 in hand,
>>>>> hear laughter? Quickly turn around, see subject, raise camera very
>>>>> quickly. FOCUS and he is still moving toward you..... "CLICK! '
>>>>> Second frame, focus quickly, click.... (blow that shot!) Third
>>>>> try?.... Focus, shoot ... out of focus get the hell out of the way,
>>>>> he's nearly on top of me!
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's nothing more than... "see-shoot!"  Not a techie thought in a
>>>>> multi-milli second! And the Great Spirit on my shoulder and trigger
>>>>> finger.... "CLICK!"   :-) Truth is? Heck I just got lucky! :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> cheers,
>>>>> Dr. ted
>>>>> Back to writing! It's coming along nicely. I may drop a line or two
>>>>> next week? ;-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Herbert Kanner
>>>> kanner at acm.org
>>>> 650-326-8204
>>>> 
>>>> Question authority and the authorities will question you.
>>>> 
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>> 
>> --
>> Herbert Kanner
>> kanner at acm.org
>> 650-326-8204
>> 
>> Question authority and the authorities will question you.
>> 
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