Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/10/26

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Subject: [Leica] How low does pigment go?
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 02:06:13 -0400

Correction (white out)
The whole ideal of "craft" or how good a printer he might be was NOT in the
equation. 


> "Appropriately" for WHAT is the center of the issue and someone who's
> showing their prints to a gallery owner or having a show in that gallery is
> not going to go to Costco to have their prints done. The very idea of it is
> comical. Its like a one liner.
> Yes the way many people print on their printers now rivals machine prints
> with the profiles.
> Digital does change a few things.
> I was at Calumet this week and a guy was showing his prints off this laptop
> to the head guy they have a large gallery upstairs. It looked like he'd
> gotten the show and the basis of his jpegs on his laptop and was being
> explained the details of publicity and so on.
> The whole ideal of "craft" or how good a printer he might be was in the
> equation. That's because we're all using the same profiles and
> Spiders I guess.
> I think there are a few people out there who just like they'd done in the
> darkroom go back and forth with their prints critically not already working
> on the next one before the previous one is out of the machine.
> I used to take more responsibly for Xerox copies than people do now with
> their inkjets.
> There was a "sharpness" button on the schools Xerox. You had to decide if
> you were going to press it or not.  And it made a big difference and you'd
> not want to press it if it didn't need it.
> -- 
> Mark R.
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
> 
> 
>> From: Adam Bridge <abridge at mac.com>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 18:38:07 -0700
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] How low does pigment go?
>> 
>> Well, don't be so snarky about Costco, Mark. Yeah, they're big and so they
>> can't do anything good.
>> 
>> BUT, Costco does color-profile and you can go on-line to find your local
>> store
>> and determine which printing technologies they offer and which papers so 
>> you
>> can prepare your images appropriately.
>> 
>> Here's a link:
>> 
>> <http://www.drycreekphoto.com/icc/>
>> 
>> I recently went to an exhibition at the US Bicycle Hall of Fame where all 
>> the
>> images were printed by (gasp) Costco . . . and they looked damn good. I 
>> was
>> quite surprised when I learned where they were printed.
>> 
>> Adam
>> 
>> On Oct 25, 2011, at 8:31 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>> 
>>> Adorama is a camera store.
>>> Costco is a mega store or some kind.
>>> 
>>> If the yellow pages still existed they'd not be in the same section with
>>> Custom Printers. Those are people who work in a small place that does 
>>> mainly
>>> that. Often just one person who does mainly that.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Mark R.
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 19:03:40 -0700
>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] How low does pigment go?
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, I should have said, "..like Adorama or other similar outfit." 
>>>> Heck, I
>>>> know some people who rely on Costco!!!
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Shutterfly does a pretty nice job too.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
>>>> 
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